Horary Readings Round 7 - Questions

[browneyes]

Yes I'm still doing readings,

I'm not quite clear on the question you want to ask - you seem to have ruled out selling up because of the financial situation but have you looked into this option? If you have and it really is a 'no no' then I can concentrate on your financial assets, rather than the real estate side.

Have you any time period in mind? Horary tends to work short term, rather than over a lifetime, so if you're talking about the next 12 months, then that will probably work well.

Hello Minderwiz

Thank you for replying.

Yes, I have ruled out selling for the time being. So doing a reading on my financial situation for the next 12 months would be very appreciated.

 

[Ronia]

Minderwiz, thanks! I'm so silly!

He has received it and I know it as this is direct communication, no way to not receive it. I'll wait a bit and check again for a response.

 

[Minderwiz]

Minderwiz, thanks! I'm so silly!

He has received it and I know it as this is direct communication, no way to not receive it. I'll wait a bit and check again for a response.

Thanks for that info, in that case the (second) Sagittarius rising chart could be used, though you'd have to choose one of the Gemini planets to signify him and use Mercury as his third house, communication. It should work but as there are three Gemini planets, excluding Mercury I'd be a bit uncomfortable with it. So the new chart is probably a good idea.

 

[Ronia]

Minderwiz, I am at a crossroad here... I know that a question should be asked when it feels like the whole world has stopped at this moment and not just ask here and there during the day, no? The thing is that for a third night in a row, last night I felt the question verys trongly and when I looked at the clock it was again 10:01 pm. Now, considering we are on such a forum here and I'm a person of divination, I do take notes when signs keep coming. May be we are Jupiter and Mercury, after all. I tried to force myself and ask the question this morning again, the chart looked a bit suspicious as it didn't show any development in the past (which is not true) but 3rd houses were again Jupiter and Mercury! It should mean something, don't you think? I'm not feeling like asking again, really. May be I should work with what I have.

I got back to the first chart and to my notes which I took when I was reading Lilly, Frawley, etc. The Moon in fact is not void of course as she is in orbit to make a sextile to Saturn when changes sign and Lilly allowed that. She is also in Saggitarius where he said she perfomed better and is a good sign, more so when Jupiter is my significator. Jupiter and Venus in the 7th I find appropriate, very appropriate. The man himself is a Mercurian sign! More so, Mercury is said to rule communication in horaries which also fits.

I'm one of those who are also not always willing to discard a chart only based on an early/late Ascendant because it may actually describe the situation. If the chart otherwise tells a good story, true story, I'm not sure the Ascendant only should be used as final judgement. In this case the Ascendant is 2 degrees and I cast the chart two days after I sent the communication. Coincidence or not. The Moon in the first house is said to signify insecurity of the querent and she opposed all those planets in Gemini. I was very insecure if I should or shouldn't, it was a big struggle, but finally I decided I'd stay positive and take a risk and do it which I find fitting as both Saggitarius Ascendant and Jupiter as my significator.

The Moon in the first is also supposed to be my co-significator and considering my emotional condition regarding the issue, it fits.

Then Saturn is retro and I'm trying again, it's a second attempt, a return to where we started. On top of that he's in the 11th (I used Internet society) and in the rulership, terms and face of Mars - of course it's about romance, after all but it's also about art/hobby.

I also noticed how the Moon, Saturn and Mars (as ruler of my 5th but also of my 12th) are in each other's terms and faces, I mean Saturn and Mars are prominent and considering the siatuation, it does describe it well.

On top of all this, it's the day of the Sun (his response) and the hour of Saturn (my communication).

Based on all this, I think the chart may be actually good and may be that's why I kept getting the same significators and I felt like asking at the same time of day... The Moon is in the terms of Saturn (my communication) which also fits. Now, his response is a bit tricky because the Sun will eventually conjunct Jupiter and the road ahead will be clear because Marcury and Venus will be gone by then, but the Moon will aspect both Sun and Jupiter first by trines from Aquarius, no?

I checked the transits ahead and that's true. The Moon trines the Sun from Aquarius and both Venus and Mercury are already ahead of Jupiter. Next she will trine Jupiter, there is noone else to prohibit as far as I can see. Now, this should be me because in this direct communication there is really no way for another person to get involved. Or, and I think this is more probable, the Moon here simply describes the flow of events.

The Sun and Jupiter are also in each other's terms so there is some kind of reception. What is a bit weird is that the Moon will sextile my own communication first... Hm.

As about the conjunction in the 7th... Eh... It's obvious I'm not willing to exchange letters for the rest of our lives, isn't it? LOL The chart may very well describe my actual thoughts and hopes... and hopefully the actual events.

Overall, despite the early Ascendant, I think I may have to stick to the first chart, I don't know why I feel like that.

 

[Minderwiz]

Minderwiz, I am at a crossroad here... I know that a question should be asked when it feels like the whole world has stopped at this moment and not just ask here and there during the day, no? The thing is that for a third night in a row, last night I felt the question verys trongly and when I looked at the clock it was again 10:01 pm. Now, considering we are on such a forum here and I'm a person of divination, I do take notes when signs keep coming. May be we are Jupiter and Mercury, after all. I tried to force myself and ask the question this morning again, the chart looked a bit suspicious as it didn't show any development in the past (which is not true) but 3rd houses were again Jupiter and Mercury! It should mean something, don't you think? I'm not feeling like asking again, really. May be I should work with what I have.

Yes, it seems 'someone' is knocking quite hard on your door I don't think you can ignore that, when the feeling is strong three nights running.

I got back to the first chart and to my notes which I took when I was reading Lilly, Frawley, etc. The Moon in fact is not void of course as she is in orbit to make a sextile to Saturn when changes sign and Lilly allowed that. She is also in Saggitarius where he said she perfomed better and is a good sign, more so when Jupiter is my significator. Jupiter and Venus in the 7th I find appropriate, very appropriate. The man himself is a Mercurian sign! More so, Mercury is said to rule communication in horaries which also fits.

I did do a cursory glance at the May 26th chart first time round but sadly I was focussing too much on the issue of Ascendant and I should have picked up the impending sextile with Saturn, so I agree with you that the Moon is not VOC in that chart - sorry I missed it.

I'm one of those who are also not always willing to discard a chart only based on an early/late Ascendant because it may actually describe the situation. If the chart otherwise tells a good story, true story, I'm not sure the Ascendant only should be used as final judgement. In this case the Ascendant is 2 degrees and I cast the chart two days after I sent the communication. Coincidence or not. The Moon in the first house is said to signify insecurity of the querent and she opposed all those planets in Gemini. I was very insecure if I should or shouldn't, it was a big struggle, but finally I decided I'd stay positive and take a risk and do it which I find fitting as both Saggitarius Ascendant and Jupiter as my significator.

The early Ascendant is a 'consideration before judgement' but a 'consideration' is not a ban on judging the chart, it just means you should think carefully first. Lilly lists a couple of reasons why judgement can still go ahead, such as the querent being young or the Ascendant describing the querent. I'm not sure that the 2 days / 2 degrees is an adequate reason but then I would certainly not refuse to read what in other respects is a good chart. I would add a caution in that reading but that's all.

Incidentally I note that Juptiter is in partile conjunction with the Lot of Fortune, which I think could be taken to indicate the 'risk taking' aspect here.

If we take the Moon as the flow of events then we have a previous opposition to Jupiter (you) a forthcoming sextile to Saturn (your communication) and then nothing till the Aquarius aspects you mention. But in order to complete these aspects, the Moon has to change signs twice - once for the sextile to Saturn and then again for the trines to the Gemini planets. That's stretching matters quite a lot. We might take the standard approach and say that the sextile to Saturn is underway but there must be some change in circumstances arising from it but for those sextiles in Aquarius, I don't think we can take them into consideration.

That leaves the movement of the other significators. The obvious one is the applying conjunction between Jupiter and Mercury, and if this was a question about 'shall we meet' then the chart screams 'Yes' and in the immediate future (Gemini being a mutable sign and both planets are angular). Now I could take that as being your real underlying question, and it may well have been, but it's not the question that you relayed. So at the moment I don't think I can answer 'Yes' to that one - but if you honestly answer that that is the 'real' question then I think you can take this chart as indicating a meeting.

Indeed thinking about it, the meeting does not have to be face to face (at least not initially) a response from him initiates a conversation. I'm not absolutely convinced by that but it does seem a reasonable interpretation of the forthcoming (at that time) conjunction.

The Sun as his communication, is a more certain significator and yes it will make a conjunction with Jupiter in Gemini (neither planet has to change signs). So that could be taken as an indicator of a response coming to you. In this case there's a separation of some 18 degrees, which is a bit wide - so I think we take it as no application.

The positive in this chart is that Mercury/Jupiter conjunction and one possible explanation of events is that you meet in someway before his response reaches you - for example he replies by letter but then decides to Skype you (virtual meeting). I don't know but I don't think you can discard the chart entirely just because a hard look makes some of it wishful thinking. That Mercury/Jupiter is certainly not wishful thinking, so take it as a positive indicator of a succesful outcome.

Good luck

 

[Ronia]

Minderwiz, thank you for taking the time! I am not willing to fall into wishful thinking but want to learn to read each horary in detail, even more than meets the eye at first glance. Of course, I wish for a positive outcome which is why I keep trying but I'm also staying realistic. At this point I didn't ask if we would meet. One would argue that each time I write to him it's actually with this only purpose but the question was not that. So, if we'll meet prior to writing or not, remains to be seen, sometimes fate has a sense of humor. I also agree with you that stretching things to the aspects in Aquarius is a bit too much but I sometimes like to look further and try to investigate. And also, I took into consideration these Moon aspects because they will happen before the Sun conjuncts Jupiter. So, in this case I was happy that the Moon is actually my co-significator and that she will trine both the Sun and Jupiter as I don't really see myself prohibiting my own desired outcome.

P.S. Aside from this story of mine, I've thought about the terms in horary before in relation to our modern world. Like with "meeting" which today, as you say, may be Skype, Facebook, even IPhone... I'm sometimes trying to fit our modern reality into these old terms so I can see all possibilities. Becauase people then had only one way to actually "meet" and "see" while today we can "meet" across the globe. Same with "talking" and any kind of communication really. We are so much more free and all is so much closer.

 

[EyeAmEye]

Hi Minderwiz,
Thanks so much for taking yet another one of my questions!

This one is very tough for me. A former co-worker and I have developed very strong feelings for one another. She actually left the job specifically because of her feelings for me. She is married and thought if she stayed here, she would waver and have an affair with me. So she left, but somehow decided she wanted to keep very close contact with my anyway. In the 2 weeks she is gone, she has emailed, texted and called me every day, multiple times.

So my question is if she is going to leave her husband within the next year? If the question needs to be centered around me, then I guess it should be what kind of relationship I will have with her over the next year.

Thanks as always, much appreciated.

 

[Minderwiz]

I now have two readings pending,

browneyes
EyeAmEye

And I'll get round to these ASAP

 

[Noni]

Well things have gone quiet for a week o I think its time for another round of Notary questions.

I'll use the same process as for the last few rounds - this thread is for questions and I'll put the answers in a parallel thread. If you haven't asked a question before you are more than welcome to join in, I really enjoy reading for new people. If you've asked before please feel free to ask again.

The question should concern you, and you should phrase it as precisely as you can. Please provide a short background so I know the context of your question.

If I don't fully understand the question or I need clarification then I'll ask for more relevant details.

If you're not sure have a look at some of the previous six rounds to bet some idea of how it works. You don't need any knowledge of Astrology, all you need is the ability to ask clearly and concisely, so that you get an accurate answer. I'll answer in order as far as I can but if I need clarification I might well deal with the next question or two, whilst I'm waiting for a response (assuming I understand them fully)

OK this'd thread is now open for questions

Hi!
I would like to sit.
If you can please read I'll PM you the details.

Cheers!

 

[Minderwiz]

Hi!
I would like to sit.
If you can please read I'll PM you the details.

Cheers!

Hi Noni - all you need do is ask a question about something that is important to you at the moment. 'Important' here is very much to you, not simply something that would be seen as objectively important. So if you've lost something that has sentimental value, that would be as important or more important that will you keep your job at the next annual review, or will you meet the person of your dreams this year.

Just post your question in this thread and I'll take the time that I read and understood it as the time for the chart. I don't need your birth details (except in very rare circumstances).

If I don't fully understand your question, I'll get back to you for clarification, so it would help if you can include as much background as you can give me.