Stalked by Strength

Pam O

Pam O- You are a rockstar! You guys have been invaluable and so helpful. Truly above and beyond any responses I thought I might get. You all have been so much more than helpful and supportive. I am, at present, waiting for a good moment to sit down and have the chat with him. He and I need to find time away from Jenna and my mother where we can sit down and have our chat. However that is a feat in and of itself. O.O lol
Awwwww....
I do believe you are about ready to change your life!
And all because you had the strength to post your question here at AT!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

So, here is to you! (Somewhere in a thread, someone posted an Emoticon of beer glasses raising in a cheers. I would post it if I knew where it was... Since it is alluding me, here is a royal cheers for you. :)) :royal:
 

Pam O

This particular card is both my soul and personality card so I don't really know if that has something to do with it, or if my cards are screaming at me to grow a pair and speak up.

I just saw this part! It has EVERYTHING to do with thing very intense situation you are in, well to me anyway. This is your life lesson my friend! You now have the opportunity to master this. Once you do it will become your greatest strength. Does that make any sense? So every angle of what is going on is important...

A note: My card is the 8 of swords. Then, no matter what method of calculation is used for my birth day card, it is always 5, and we know the pictures of the 5s in the RWS, along with the 8 of swords!!!!! :bugeyed:

So I too am focused on transforming certain situations into strengths. (No point in continuing a life path where soul and personality card are weaknesses where you get stuck!) Anytime I get into a funk, I ask myself, "Is this a 'good enuff' syndrome rearing its ugly head? That has become my name for that 8 of swords.... So it is time to implement the number of change, the 5, only I am not interested in change the way it is portrayed in the RWS...

One ggod thig: At least many Strength cards are good and positive when you first see them. Actually, I found a really cool picture of a strength card that is unpublished. Maybe I can find it for you.

A couple of nights ago, it actually occurred to me that a thread of Strength card pictures would be pretty cool! I forgot that idea until right now...
 

MandMaud

I am, at present, waiting for a good moment to sit down and have the chat with him. He and I need to find time away from Jenna and my mother where we can sit down and have our chat. However that is a feat in and of itself. O.O lol
Woo, I was away 2 days and look what I come back to. Now I'm all agog :D though the unfolding of the story is your own business, of course! It's just that we all care.

PLUS everything Pam said. if you got any support, that began with your action. You deserve a fantastic life, BeccaBoo.

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So, here is to you! (Somewhere in a thread, someone posted an Emoticon of beer glasses raising in a cheers. I would post it if I knew where it was... Since it is alluding me, here is a royal cheers for you. :)) :royal:
:cheers: ... doesn't work! But here's the list of smileys: http://www.tarotforum.net/misc.php?do=showsmilies (I don't think your beer-cheers is there, but :smoker: is. :) I've got that page bookmarked, plus if you look at the printable version under Quick Links, like that the : : codes show.)
 

Rewdan

Hi BeccaBoo,

I thought a psychological perspective could possibly STRENGTHen your understanding, and therefore your position. These are simply some ideas to consider in coming to your own decisions and solutions. They are about learning from our child.

What distinguishes a (conscious) human parent from an animal parent? After all, the animal cuddles, feeds, nurtures, and generally trains its child for the world - and this is what humans do. To understand the answer to why a human parent is different, one needs to understand the psychological reason for a human having a child.

A child is projected into the world because deep within themselves is something unconscious in the parents. The child embodies that unconsciousness of the parents; essentially the child carries forth (is an externalisation of) the journey of that which is unconscious and unrealised in the parents.

So what is the proper psychological role a human parent can play: to help themselves AND to help the child, so that not only does the parent become more conscious, but the child's burden is lightened - particularly in that the child will then not have to literally go through many of the traumas and illnesses of managing a burden the parent has passed on to them.

A child is not equipped to consciously manage the burden passed on by the parent; they can only live it literally. For example, say, a brave army colonel has passed on to his boy all the fears/terrors the father does not confront within himself; the son will then have to cope with carrying a burden of terror - perhaps in his nightmares, later in the playground, and quite possibly in forming relationships. There are innumerable possible scenarios here.

The first psychological rule is: the human parent is learning from the child - every day; the child is a closer reflection of what the parent needs to realise in themselves once a child has been born; that is why the intensity of relationship between partners often cools a lot after a child is born; the key projections now manifest more in the child, than in the partner.

I have only covered the above to present a specific possible psychological perspective to you, BeccaBoo. And please do not take what I say literally. Psychology is about the imagination - and sometimes we draw stark pictures, but only to highlight ideas.

In your life you say your child is autistic. I am sure and know there is a lot more to her than that, and she is a wonderful human being. Being strictly practical and still true to her we must as our most important tribute to her make ourselves more conscious of what her autism means psychologically, and imaginatively.

Today, it seems only relevant to cover autism in the context of your 'emotionalism'.

You have yourself said you are an emotional person: in post #12: "I am one of those hated criers. The people that cry at the drop of a hat". It is also apparent that you are uncertain of your emotions, and of expressing yourself forthrightly, with strength. Psychologically, one would say we have a person here with some weaknesses in the emotional band of life.

This is where your daughter can quite possibly show you the way. Autism is quite the opposite of your condition. It has been brought forth in your child to bring balance to your one-sided emotional nature. Your daughter in her autism expresses a condition where there is 'lack of emotion'. (I am being stark here to highlight and capture succinctly your possible psychological lesson in only this particular present situation).

Each psychological relationship and situation is unique. Given the situation you have described so far I would expand the scope of the Strength card to include the idea of 'lack of emotion' in the decision you make; this autistic framework could be expanded to the ideas of detachment, disconnection, your own space, and an unconcern for the emotions of others.

From the tarot side I would expand the idea of the Lion in the Strength card to incorporate the Lion's qualities of strength which most embody lack of emotion: ruthlessness, even brutality in the way you approach your decisions and actions.

If what I have covered above seems relevant then you will be developing a tougher instinctual side - the Lion - within, to counter an attitude within yourself which is too emotional/relational.


Secondary note: You may be aware that a Uranus cycle is 7 year one through a sign of the Zodiac (Neptune is 14 yrs, and Pluto 21 yrs). This means that, particularly with significant present situations and events, the cause lies at a time 7 years ago.

For you, the cycle has come round, and it's time to face the consequences of your decisions and actions 7 years ago. It is now your responsibility to do so. From your decisions and actions will flow your life and evolution for the next 7 years, and so on.
 

Rewdan

I realise that my post, above, comes from a space perhaps unfamiliar to many. So for those who are interested in the background to a depth psychology approach to the tarot, and the free work I do, I have created a webpage (my first one ever!) called tarot psychology; this is really for Aeclectic members only; I have put a link to it in my profile.
 

MandMaud

I realise that my post, above, comes from a space perhaps unfamiliar to many. So for those who are interested in the background to a depth psychology approach to the tarot, and the free work I do, I have created a webpage (my first one ever!) called tarot psychology; this is really for Aeclectic members only; I have put a link to it in my profile.

I'm familiar with psychology but your post gives me some angles I hadn't come across - a new train of thought to get fascinated with, wonderful, thank you! :thumbsup: - and your page looks great from a quick dip into it. I'm zapping it to my kindle to read properly. Great that you did this! :)
 

Rewdan

I'm familiar with psychology but your post gives me some angles I hadn't come across - a new train of thought to get fascinated with, wonderful, thank you! :thumbsup: - and your page looks great from a quick dip into it. I'm zapping it to my kindle to read properly. Great that you did this! :)

Thanks for the feedback, MandMaud; I appreciate it :). I was remiss in not pointing out the implications for the child when parents do not consciously learn from their child; I edited para 4 & 5 in my post #34, and trust you saw this.

Back to BeccaBoo, whose thread and story, in a much wider sense, this is. I am quite sensitive when a psychic/spiritual unfoldment resonates with me. With this story (BeccaBoo's) I believe there is more to the unfoldment occurring than meets the eye - and I do not have the necessary knowledge to fill in the gap. So I will add a post shortly about a possible missing factor not covered in our responses so far, which I trust others may be able to respond to/elaborate on more knowledgeably than I.
 

Rewdan

This has been quite a thread: gradual unfoldment, lots of inspiring input to BeccaBoo's dilemma, with lots of perspective.

It's a tough call here, on this 7 year cycle. And when I view the situation inwardly I sense strongly that, in this case, we are not quite there with the message in the Strength card. So, particularly because I know I do not have the specific knowledge needed to enable BeccaBoo to have the inner forces she needs to see her situation through fully and coherently, I will cover in outline what I believe is missing - and trust someone with more knowledge can bring forth, and invoke, the true archetypal strength of the card needed in this situation.

So far we have all analysed and felt into the situation and card quite well. But there is a key factor missing. In an archetypal tarot situation one may well need to identify and name exactly the spiritual force/Deity standing behind the situation/card: calling out, and speaking to us, asking us to make it conscious in our lives.

I can suggest a definite direction of approach for identifying the Deity/Spiritual Force in this particular circumstance; but since I do not have sufficient background and knowledge to actually do so, I trust someone else will be able to.

Say, we were to divide the individual's intelligence into four psychological faculties: intuition, thinking, feeling (emotions), and will. From my perspective the Strength card is about expressing the inner will/instinctual force of the querent - as imaged in the Lion.

My sense though is that: this is a story of The Inner Will specific to the American psyche.

America is founded on the basis of crushing the primitive inner will force of the land - when the settlers subdued the American Indian. When such energy forces are crushed they go into the unconscious - and are unconsciously acted out collectively.

One could say: America has an inner force of instinctual power, an inner will, arising from its American Indian unconscious; this collective inner power is used at the collective national level - and is therefore denied to the individual American, whose rightful inheritance it also is.

My suggested approach is to enable this power of the unconscious American inner will to be heard consciously - for the individual: to identify and name it. To INVOKE it for BeccaBoo - and on behalf of all of us subject, knowingly or unknowingly, to the national American Will.

But I have no real knowledge of American Indian mythology. What would be the Strength card in an American Indian story? What picture would stand behind it? (from what I read, Lions died out in prehistoric times in America - but I know very little in this area).

Could someone with the awareness and knowledge needed to identify and name the Force and Deity in the American Indian consciousness representing Strength and the inner will, please help. Any general ideas on American Indian mythology, or suggestion of tarot decks in this area, would also be greatly welcome.
 

MandMaud

Thanks for the feedback, MandMaud; I appreciate it :). I was remiss in not pointing out the implications for the child when parents do not consciously learn from their child; I edited para 4 & 5 in my post #33, and trust you saw this.
Yes, I caught it after you'd already edited, I think. But yours was post #44 (I always have to look twice to be sure of this). :D

But I have no real knowledge of American Indian mythology. What would be the Strength card in an American Indian story?
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/native-american.shtml :)
 

BeccaBoo

Well dang everyone... I suppose this is what happens when you dont check your user cp for a few days. :bugeyed:

Some of this I am not sure how to handle.

Pam O: you make me smile. Point blank.

Mandmaud: I now know how you felt a felt a few days ago. Haha.

Rewdan: ... I am just not really entirely sure what you want me to say :( However, I googled Native American Tarot and the only Strength card that came up on my search is labelled as card 11 and the picture had a Native American man pictured with a wolf and their eyes were locked into one another's. I do not really know if that helps or not though.