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Valens Book 2 Section 3 Summary

To summarize the current knowledge of Valen's use of triplicity lord's condition and its use in judging the general tenor of a nativity (many thanks for Minderwiz for multiple clarifications)

1. Take the sign the sect lord is in

2. List the triplicity lords -primary, secondary, tertiary. These vary with day/night births and mode of sign the sect leader is in

3. The first triplicity lord rules the first half of life

4. The second triplicity lord rules the secondn half of life

5. The third lord assists both these throughout life, but subordinate to them

6. Judge first two triplicity lords by angularity, being in their own triplicities, heliacal rising or setting, and aspects by benefics or malefics.

7. The final 'state' of the lord determines the quality of life. The succession of states of the primary and secondary triplicity lord determines the relative quality of the first and second halves of life. This 'shift' is often triggered by the 'return of the appropriate chronocator' (this last yet to be deciphered)

8. Overall this schema of judgement - angularity + in own triplicity or not + heliacal rising or setting + aspects by benefics or malefics, gives a quick way to rank planets from most benefic to most malevolent in a horoscope. (Valens does not say this. This is just something I tried out on some horoscopes of friends and family, and seems valid. Might not hold universally, we'll see)

9. [NEW ]The harsh aspects of Mars to these lords for day births, and Saturn for night births, debilitates their condition and this reflects in the quality of that half of life

" If, for example, Saturn is found in opposition or in square for night births, it will bring about reversals, ruin, dangers, injuries, and diseases, as well as sluggishness in enterprises.

For day births, Mars causes hot, reckless men, precarious in their activities and in their livelihoods. They experience imprisonment, trials, abuse, cuts,burns, bleeding, and accidents/falls. But if these stars happen to be configured properly, in their own sects, they are actively positive.
In spite of this last sentence, Valens later explains that the sect malefic causes trouble even when positive

" For night births, however, if Saturn is configured well and has a relationship
with the house ruler, it will also cause the loss of what was gained, reduction
in rank, and infamy. Let the same considerations be true for Mars: for night
births it grants leadership, generalship, public commands of the masses; for
day births (if Mars is in operative places), it brings about the previously
mentioned circumstances, but it then turns them into reversals, fears, and
oppositions; it makes leadership subject to factionalism and terror. It brings
attacks of enemies and uprisings of the mob, famines and plagues on cities,
assaults, fires, dangerous crises."

10. [NEW] The out of sect malefic can be positive if configured well to triplicity lords, aspects benefics, or is angular. (Saturn for day births, Mars for night births.

11. [NEW] If both the primary and secondary triplicity lords are badly situated, then we need to look at the staus of the Part of Fortune. (details to come)

12 [NEW but]I didn't understand this paragraph at all

"In the same way the benefics will take on the character of malefics whenever they are situated badly as house rulers. If they happen to be at angles while their house ruler just precedes an angle, their ability to do good will be weakened.
In any type [of forecast/nativity] it will be necessary to examine
how the house ruler of the house ruler is situated and what stars it has in
aspect. If the overall house ruler is unfavourably situated, but its ruler
[=ruler of its sign] is configured well, then the native will have help and a
basis of livelihood and rank proportional to the position of the star"

I *think* what is being said is

The benefics will be positive *unless* their triplicity ruler (I'm consistently interpreting 'house ruler' as 'triplicity ruler') are cadent, in which case their ability to do good is reduced. The 'house ruler of the house ruler' is a bit confusing, and it would have been good to have a concrete horoscope here)

This finishes section 3 of Book 2.
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