Tarot Cielo by Kat Black

EarthAngel2911

After listening to your podcast, Leisa, on the uses of Tarot with an iPhone (I have an older generation Color iPod), I was excited at the possibilities! I know mine is older and the screen is smaller, but I'm sure it would work on mine, even if in a limited fashion.

As someone who tries to carry around at least 3 decks with me everywhere I go, and ends up carrying not only a purse, but a tote as well, this is a great idea! I could have multiple decks with me with only an iPod in my hands. No, it doesn't substitute for my real paper & ink decks, but I think it's a wonderful supplement and evolution to how we use Tarot now.

I'm really looking forward to your new deck, Kat! :)
 

retrokat

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Hope you like them :)
 

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Pagan X

One of my "day jobs" is doing research for casino game design. I used to work for a company that makes digital blackjack (and other games) tables.

Using digital cards in casino games means that games can be designed with infinite decks--and the penny just dropped (a phrase from old slot machines)--that a digital Tarot deck means that a card can turn up more than once in a reading. I do that with Runes sometimes, replacing each drawn Rune back into the bag, because the Rune vocabulary of 24 energies is too limited I think for a ten-station layout. Towards the end, the Universe just isn't given many choices.

I think that would be a useful software option, to have an "infinite Tarot deck" setting, that would take advantage of one of the properties of digital format that conventional cards can't supply.

Glad to see you back Kat. I too have been "off the grid" working for free (well, feeding a White Elephant in the hopes that it will become productive!) I've been managing a standup comedy club. Comedians haven't seen their pay scale go up since 1970's levels. For writers of supernatural fiction though, it's worse: magazines still pay the rates they had in the Great Depression.

Market forces I suppose. There are a lot more musicians and writers than good standup comedians, but, with television and Internet, local performers have to compete with the entire world.
 

retrokat

Good luck with the club. pX!

One of the events at our Festival was the Aussie Premiere screening of a doco featuring Flight of the Conchords at the Edinburgh Comedy Festival (and Bret's brush with fame as Figwit in Lord of the Rings). We'd flown the director from NZ for Q+A and then only 12 people turned up :(

If only the FotC series was being shown on TV here - I hear it's taken the Soprano's slot on HBO and the ratings are doing very well, so looks like there's *some* hope for comedy :)

And where would be be without White Elephant keepers? I hope the club repays you in a thousand good belly-laughs. There's something worth more than money!
 

Pagan X

Digital deck design and marketing and a maths question

I'm going to think some more on how computers, phones, digital format and interactive media (ucky phrase) can add to the use of Tarot (and other oracles really).

For example, following up on the idea that a card can occur more than once in a reading. That now opens up a new level of interpretation of the significance of that number. Let us look at the math really quick.

I use the Celtic Cross reading, with the deck choosing the significator. That is 11 cards. So, any one card always has odds of 11/78 to show up in a reading at all...that is, 1/7. (Note: I've started charting which cards historically have been showing up in readings for me, and over the last six months, the list of cards that have *not* shown up is quite interesting. I digress.)

What are the odds of a card showing up twice? I think it's 1/49. Somebody check my thinking on this. That would be once a year if doing one reading a week. So, a card showing up twice is pretty significant. More than twice would be very significant. I suppose one could assign meanings on that occurance based on numerological principles...that seems artifical to me, sticking to system for system's sake. Rather, a card reoccuring is a matter of increasing *emphasis*.

What are some other advantages...well, on a phone, one can do an entire reading, including a very long or large one in a small space. The easiest readings would be somewhat linear though...so the simplest "spreads" would be of the narrative sort, like the three and five card spreads that are in lines.

To make connections between positions that are non-linear--as in say the central two axes of the Celtic Cross--it would help if the software pointed to those relationships and reminded the querant of them. Not easy to be flipping around a layout on the subway on one's cellphone. This involves the software designers looking at spreads and breaking out their axes, adjacencies, and sequences; then having the software point them up.

In a way, the software is a Sooper LWB. Most LWB's give definitions of spread positions and cards, it's up to the reader to slot the card into the spread position *and* take into account relationships between card meanings and stations in combinations.

And of course software that saved readings, or emailed readings to an archive location; the ability to search saved readings; the ability to correlate card appearances with astronomical (astrological) events or one's birth chart progressions, that tabulated card appearances by frequency and position. (I had gotten the Queen of Swords Reversed *four readings in a row* before I found out about the troubles at the Club and how much money was being stolen from me.)

I'm not so jazzed about having software that provides interpretations, that is, functions as a Tarot reader. That is what many web sites do and commercial packages. It could be cool; a lot of interesting programming; responding to keywords to typed in questions and so on; but this is really not what your deck is about: roboreader. It's about making an engaging psychic tool for the user. I think having the contents of LWB's as reference material would be good, and certainly your designer's notes and insights, but ultimately the user does the reading.

Spousal Unit Greggiboo likes the Subscription Model: an artiste sets a $$$ threshold and fans throw money until it's reached. There's a website set up to do this, I can't remember...foo, will come back to this.) The problem with that is that per project it isn't scaleable: a very successful project earns no more than a moderately successful project. the increased payoff comes on later projects (which, to a certain extent, did happen here, I think; your donor no doubt ponied up the development $$$ based on the strength of the Golden Tarot.) The other problem is the factor of time. Games in general and I imagine Tarot decks can take a long time to become "evergreens" and reach full market potential. They are very sensitive to word-of-mouth.


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The club has changed me as I have changed it. It's well on track moneywise after seven months.

It has also been a magical experience. By this I mean, that I did come in after a few weeks "come out" as a Tarotist and a Wiccan. Spokane is supposedly a very conservative small city, with billboards advertising the benefits of marriage, voting Republican, anti-abortion rights protestors with huge horrible photos on the streetcorner opposite the Zip's Burger (glad I'm not trying to run *that* place.) I've been pleasantly surprised at the number of Wiccans, Druids, Pagans who have turned up to work at Bluz or have turned out to be family members of people already working at Bluz.

I've done Tarot readings for just about all of my employees and use the Tarot weekly for management and business questions!

It has been wonderful. I've lost 15 pounds and dance five nights a week when we have live music. I did miss the two car chases and the one bar fight though, being out of town. Darn.

I'm back in Seattle now and I sure do miss the place.
 

retrokat

*grin* a bar fight and car chases at a Comedy Club - were they with trick-chairs and comically undersized cars? Can't help but thinking of Buster Keaton et al :D
 

Pagan X

Ok, what I was thinking of:

http://www.fundable.org/

It's a website for raising money. I've seen some role-playing game designers successfully fund projects through it. I will go find a publishing thread and toss it in.

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Well, it is a Blues bar in bad part of town. The challenge with the comedians is keeping them from just using profanity as punctuation or lazy thinking. We fine them $5 for each "f-word" that isn't necessary to a joke. One guy lost his whole paycheck with 63 uses in a 45 minute period.

And they angle for free drinks. Now, a tarot designer would never stoop so low!
 

retrokat

Fundable looks very interesting! I tried a similar thing within Australia, that even allowed donations to be tax deductible for the Festival but we only got 2 donations totalling $40. I think the problem was that it needed someone working on fundraising fulltime, and I was spending all my time just making it happen.

I met some wonderful people through http://xmedialab.com and the Festival who are keen to help out with getting a deal for Tarot Ceilo though, so fingers crossed and I'll keep working on the deck and my pitch :)

Thanks so much for the encouragement! Perhaps a tarot gambling/casino game might be the solution? :p
 

retrokat

At last - some news!

Just to let you all know that there will be a small edition of Tarot Cielo published by http://tarotconnection.net and a companion book as well. Can't say much more at this stage, but you heard it here, folks, so it must be true :)
 

truelighth

Whoohooo.. that is great news! I am gonna keep an eye on tarot connections to make sure I won't miss it. :D