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Mars has a well defined role in the symbology of our western-world culture: The God of War, Anger, Force of Will, Phystical Outrage, Agression, Heat, Energy, Striving thru Physical Actions -- all of these and more. On the other hand, Venus has a completely different set of symbol-images and accepted attributes: Love, Softness, Harmony and Balance, Acquisitiveness, Love of the Arts, Beauty, Tenderness -- all of these and more. Put these two symbols together and people narrow the wide list of associate words to one -- sex.
Clearly there is a lot of meaning for each of these planets and also for these two planets together. One word that sometimes applies to this pair is "poise." Self-assuredness, sensuality and one's comfort in it, seeking/collecting artwork, creation, building, physicall togetherness and bonding -- these can also be very representative of this pair.
Earlier we had covered the Sun-Moon Relationships and Saturn-Moon relationships. Sun-Moon phases are one of six keys that I will be covering, a key that portrays our balance between ego, will, health, vitality on one hand and responsiveness, habits, emotional levels and expression of basic needs on the other hand -- or, to put it more compactly, our basic personality. Saturn-Moon phase relationships looked at our conditioning, family heritage and baggage that we may still be carrying, habits and complexes that may hinder our free expression -- or, in short, family and social conditioning.
With Mars and Venus in phase relationships we look at a third key to quickly and easily assessing an astrological chart: Sensuality and self-expression.
PERFORMER PHASE:
Mars and Venus, Venus 0 to 45 degrees ahead of Mars. Here Venus and Mars join up in a passionate pursuit of one's values. Acting without thinking, grabbing on impulse, physical expression for the sheer joy of being and living, acting out one's feelings. This phase might conjure up images of the un-zipped playboy, the Energizer Bunny (seen often in US TV advertising for a brand of batteries that are long lasting), Casnaova, the Three Musketeer's, the Kissing Bandit, one who loves physical exercise, a mad painter in a Paris loft, etc. I've heard of this phase being called "bedroom eyes".
If one thinks of Mars in one sign and Venus in the next sign, the image is that Venus has experiences that Mars does not yet have, and Venus beckons to Mars with a promise of new challenges. Mars is always up to a challenge, so who runs the show here?
WORKER PHASE:
Venus is 45 to 90 degrees ahead of Mars. With some distance from Mars, Venus has a creative push, a need to just "feel" and be imersed in a fully sensual/sensate mood. Where past conventions contradict these feelings, then those past conventions and rules are dropped or rejected. This is the phase where Mars and Venus are like partners in crime, they don't know each other well, but they are both going places together.
ACTIVIST PHASE:
Venus is 90 to 135 degrees ahead of Mars. Mad Magazine's Alfred E. Neuman always used to say, "What, me worry?!" This phase is something like that for Mars-Venus, "Do now, worry later." Venus is really way ahead of Mars in this phase, and loves to play the role of Flirt and Temptress. Do you smell the roses at the Florist Shop or do you just take them all? I have always felt that there was a sort of "overkill" at work in this phase, sort of like a bull in a china shop, or rough and ready way of living life.
ANALYST PHASE:
Venus is now 135 to 180 degrees ahead of Mars. By now, both Mars and Venus know how the other acts, but both have little experience in controlling themselves or each other. Aware of this, both become a bit tentative in their expression. Experience is sought, but there seems to be a sense of not having prior experience or confidence in prior experiences -- hence the tentative use of Mars-Venus energies in this phase.
How might this phase work out? Mars puts his best foot forward, then remembers he forgot to polish his shoe. Venus sees, likes, takes and then discovers a lack of strength in carrying something off. One decides to ask for a date and ends up shaking his date's hand instead of giving her the flowers. A lack of confidence, going slow, being awkward might be some expressions. On the other hand Mars-Venus can be awkward or uncoordinated in little ways like picking the wrong combination of colors to wear, making little social gaffs, etc. I guess its best to just say that this can be a tough phase for this pair of planets.
SEEKER PHASE:
Venus has reached/passed the 180 degrees mark ahead of Mars, and is somewhere between 180 and 225 degrees ahead. Whatever difficulties there are between Mars and Venus, they are out in the open here. Conflicts between the manner and the means exist. Experiences are more of the "crises" type. Mars and Venus are as distant from each other as they might ever be. Each is seeking recognition, seeking to not give anything to the other. There is an attraction here, no doubt about it. But whose party will the other favor? "Love to fight, fight to love."
BELIEVER PHASE:
Venus is 225 to 270 degrees ahead of Mars. There are two sides to how this phase works out: Either one is an imitator of others, or one is truly creative. Remember that I have referred to this as the "honest man" phase. Here, it is not so much as Mars-Venus being honest, but is there a true honesty to expressing Mars and Venus in a harmonious way? One either truly lives their Mars-Venus symbology or one imitates and copies a role model. Which?
This phase brings us to the point where we truly develop poise and a strong sense of self and how to get what one wants -- or we do as others do, or seem to do, and learn by copying. Both approaches teach us something but only the "truly being oneself" gives us confidence and vision. Luckily, this cycle between Mars and Venus is relatively quick and we keep getting new chances to succeed.
CHANGER PHASE:
Here, with Venus 270 to 315 degrees ahead of Mars, we find a conflict between desires and values. These varuiys conflicts seem to have a wide influence on others by changing things big time. By now, you should be getting the idea that nothing comes easy between this pair of planets. By now, you should also be getting the idea that the earlier-given keywords need to be changed.
This conflict between desires and values can be positive. Changes can lead to better situations. How can this all work out positively. I think that the answer is not wholely found in this pair of planets. Mars and Venus are like two kids playing at life. The Sun-Moon and Saturn-Moon patterns will likely give us a clue as to the maturity levels of Mars & Venus or that can affect how Mars & Venus are allowed to work. I don't think I've seen too many clearly mature relationships between these two. The feedback from the list will tell us if this is true or not.
PRHOPHET PHASE:
Venus has almost completed its cycle, reaching a point of 315 degrees or more ahead of Mars. Venus is now developing an attraction for things that can't yet be easily defined. Values are changing. How one secures those values is also changing. There may be a sense that Mars and Venus could be better used, love could be more passionate, being more available to others could have been a richer experience, that confidence in ones abilities and force of creation could have led to better results. Perhaps one has a sense of wishing the next cycle had already started
Final comments:
By themselves, Mars and Venus are easier to understand. As a pair, they play a key role in how forceful and how well we express our love, creativity, sense of self-confidence, poise under stress, ability to learn from mimicing others, the manner in which our actions and values can influence others. I find that these two are hard to describe -- that because each of these planets is so personal in their nature. They have a wide range of possible expressions. Perhaps we can learn from each other. Dave
Clearly there is a lot of meaning for each of these planets and also for these two planets together. One word that sometimes applies to this pair is "poise." Self-assuredness, sensuality and one's comfort in it, seeking/collecting artwork, creation, building, physicall togetherness and bonding -- these can also be very representative of this pair.
Earlier we had covered the Sun-Moon Relationships and Saturn-Moon relationships. Sun-Moon phases are one of six keys that I will be covering, a key that portrays our balance between ego, will, health, vitality on one hand and responsiveness, habits, emotional levels and expression of basic needs on the other hand -- or, to put it more compactly, our basic personality. Saturn-Moon phase relationships looked at our conditioning, family heritage and baggage that we may still be carrying, habits and complexes that may hinder our free expression -- or, in short, family and social conditioning.
With Mars and Venus in phase relationships we look at a third key to quickly and easily assessing an astrological chart: Sensuality and self-expression.
PERFORMER PHASE:
Mars and Venus, Venus 0 to 45 degrees ahead of Mars. Here Venus and Mars join up in a passionate pursuit of one's values. Acting without thinking, grabbing on impulse, physical expression for the sheer joy of being and living, acting out one's feelings. This phase might conjure up images of the un-zipped playboy, the Energizer Bunny (seen often in US TV advertising for a brand of batteries that are long lasting), Casnaova, the Three Musketeer's, the Kissing Bandit, one who loves physical exercise, a mad painter in a Paris loft, etc. I've heard of this phase being called "bedroom eyes".
If one thinks of Mars in one sign and Venus in the next sign, the image is that Venus has experiences that Mars does not yet have, and Venus beckons to Mars with a promise of new challenges. Mars is always up to a challenge, so who runs the show here?
WORKER PHASE:
Venus is 45 to 90 degrees ahead of Mars. With some distance from Mars, Venus has a creative push, a need to just "feel" and be imersed in a fully sensual/sensate mood. Where past conventions contradict these feelings, then those past conventions and rules are dropped or rejected. This is the phase where Mars and Venus are like partners in crime, they don't know each other well, but they are both going places together.
ACTIVIST PHASE:
Venus is 90 to 135 degrees ahead of Mars. Mad Magazine's Alfred E. Neuman always used to say, "What, me worry?!" This phase is something like that for Mars-Venus, "Do now, worry later." Venus is really way ahead of Mars in this phase, and loves to play the role of Flirt and Temptress. Do you smell the roses at the Florist Shop or do you just take them all? I have always felt that there was a sort of "overkill" at work in this phase, sort of like a bull in a china shop, or rough and ready way of living life.
ANALYST PHASE:
Venus is now 135 to 180 degrees ahead of Mars. By now, both Mars and Venus know how the other acts, but both have little experience in controlling themselves or each other. Aware of this, both become a bit tentative in their expression. Experience is sought, but there seems to be a sense of not having prior experience or confidence in prior experiences -- hence the tentative use of Mars-Venus energies in this phase.
How might this phase work out? Mars puts his best foot forward, then remembers he forgot to polish his shoe. Venus sees, likes, takes and then discovers a lack of strength in carrying something off. One decides to ask for a date and ends up shaking his date's hand instead of giving her the flowers. A lack of confidence, going slow, being awkward might be some expressions. On the other hand Mars-Venus can be awkward or uncoordinated in little ways like picking the wrong combination of colors to wear, making little social gaffs, etc. I guess its best to just say that this can be a tough phase for this pair of planets.
SEEKER PHASE:
Venus has reached/passed the 180 degrees mark ahead of Mars, and is somewhere between 180 and 225 degrees ahead. Whatever difficulties there are between Mars and Venus, they are out in the open here. Conflicts between the manner and the means exist. Experiences are more of the "crises" type. Mars and Venus are as distant from each other as they might ever be. Each is seeking recognition, seeking to not give anything to the other. There is an attraction here, no doubt about it. But whose party will the other favor? "Love to fight, fight to love."
BELIEVER PHASE:
Venus is 225 to 270 degrees ahead of Mars. There are two sides to how this phase works out: Either one is an imitator of others, or one is truly creative. Remember that I have referred to this as the "honest man" phase. Here, it is not so much as Mars-Venus being honest, but is there a true honesty to expressing Mars and Venus in a harmonious way? One either truly lives their Mars-Venus symbology or one imitates and copies a role model. Which?
This phase brings us to the point where we truly develop poise and a strong sense of self and how to get what one wants -- or we do as others do, or seem to do, and learn by copying. Both approaches teach us something but only the "truly being oneself" gives us confidence and vision. Luckily, this cycle between Mars and Venus is relatively quick and we keep getting new chances to succeed.
CHANGER PHASE:
Here, with Venus 270 to 315 degrees ahead of Mars, we find a conflict between desires and values. These varuiys conflicts seem to have a wide influence on others by changing things big time. By now, you should be getting the idea that nothing comes easy between this pair of planets. By now, you should also be getting the idea that the earlier-given keywords need to be changed.
This conflict between desires and values can be positive. Changes can lead to better situations. How can this all work out positively. I think that the answer is not wholely found in this pair of planets. Mars and Venus are like two kids playing at life. The Sun-Moon and Saturn-Moon patterns will likely give us a clue as to the maturity levels of Mars & Venus or that can affect how Mars & Venus are allowed to work. I don't think I've seen too many clearly mature relationships between these two. The feedback from the list will tell us if this is true or not.
PRHOPHET PHASE:
Venus has almost completed its cycle, reaching a point of 315 degrees or more ahead of Mars. Venus is now developing an attraction for things that can't yet be easily defined. Values are changing. How one secures those values is also changing. There may be a sense that Mars and Venus could be better used, love could be more passionate, being more available to others could have been a richer experience, that confidence in ones abilities and force of creation could have led to better results. Perhaps one has a sense of wishing the next cycle had already started
Final comments:
By themselves, Mars and Venus are easier to understand. As a pair, they play a key role in how forceful and how well we express our love, creativity, sense of self-confidence, poise under stress, ability to learn from mimicing others, the manner in which our actions and values can influence others. I find that these two are hard to describe -- that because each of these planets is so personal in their nature. They have a wide range of possible expressions. Perhaps we can learn from each other. Dave