dadsnook2000
In this thread we will discuss the "progressed chart" and both the developing and departing aspects between Saturn and the other astrological planets.
PROGRESSED CHARTS:
Progressed charts show the personal development patterns that are likely to develop as we move thru life. They are not, IMHO, prediction tools as such but seem to indicate both patterns of development and times of significant event manifestations that highlight or focus our attention relative to those patterns of changing devleopment. Let's take a brief look at the two types of progressed charts that I like to use.
1) The SECONDARY Progression chart based on the progressed MC. There are several variants of secondary progression charts -- you can base a progression on daily MC movement, daily Sun movement, average Sun movement and several static "arc of movement" methods such as the Naibod, etc.
In this progression method, the individual planet movements in terms of their daily motion is used, the number of days relate to the number of years that one wishes to examine -- 31 days after birth equates to 31 years after birth. The Sun will have moved about a full sign ahead of its natal position, the Moon will have returned and passed its natal position, the outer planets will have move very little relative to the inner planets which generally tend to move somewhat.
For the outer planets, some may be in retrograde motion and will either move so little as to not change chart position, or may actually "back into" a more exact aspectual relationship with some planet. The Moon, of course will be moving through signs quite rapidly, changing signs every two and a half years (actually 2.5 days on average) and will tend to make many aspects in subsequent secondary progression charts. The Sun which may have had natal square aspects, for example, will move on around 30 years/days to form trine aspects to planets it formerly squared. This is indicative of the types of "developmental trends" that we will be examining.
2) The SOLAR ARC Progression chart -- not the normal chart wheel type, but the mid-point presentation using the Solar Arc movement is quite different from the secondary progression chart. First, there is no retrograde motion to account for as everything moves ahead by the same movement-value as does the Sun.
Where the secondary progression chart -- lets call it a "2P" chart -- shows overall developmental trends, the Solar Arch chart -- lets call it the "Solar-P" chart -- focuses upon ones health and identity (Sun symbology) in terms of how the planets affect this aspect of oneself. Using the mid-point system, this type of chart seems to be quite useful as a prediction tool as well as a developmental tool that relates to health and self-hood.
HOW WE WILL PARTICIPATE
We will focus on SATURN and any aspects that it alone makes in either of the two forms of progression charts. THIS EXERCISE WILL HELP ALL TO APPLY WHAT WE LEARN TO ANY OF THE OTHER PLANETS AND ASPECTS IN THEIR CHARTS -- BUT WE NEED TO STICK TO WORKING WITH "SATURN".
Because we will collectively have a lot of questions about all of the aspects that we have, it may not be reasonable to expect me to answer each and every aspect offered for consideration. I will do what I can and if there is too much asked I will tend to focus on those who have actively and continually participated in the Planet Series threads first.
In the course of these responses and sharings of ones personal chart patterns involving Saturn and the manner in which you each experienced these timely developments, we will also share and learn a bit about how to interprete the two types of charts I noted. FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY I WOULD PREFER THAT WE NOT FOCUS ON OTHER FORMS OF PROGRESSED CHARTS IN ANY DETAIL -- just the developing, actual or departing aspects and their timing and experience.
Dave.
PROGRESSED CHARTS:
Progressed charts show the personal development patterns that are likely to develop as we move thru life. They are not, IMHO, prediction tools as such but seem to indicate both patterns of development and times of significant event manifestations that highlight or focus our attention relative to those patterns of changing devleopment. Let's take a brief look at the two types of progressed charts that I like to use.
1) The SECONDARY Progression chart based on the progressed MC. There are several variants of secondary progression charts -- you can base a progression on daily MC movement, daily Sun movement, average Sun movement and several static "arc of movement" methods such as the Naibod, etc.
In this progression method, the individual planet movements in terms of their daily motion is used, the number of days relate to the number of years that one wishes to examine -- 31 days after birth equates to 31 years after birth. The Sun will have moved about a full sign ahead of its natal position, the Moon will have returned and passed its natal position, the outer planets will have move very little relative to the inner planets which generally tend to move somewhat.
For the outer planets, some may be in retrograde motion and will either move so little as to not change chart position, or may actually "back into" a more exact aspectual relationship with some planet. The Moon, of course will be moving through signs quite rapidly, changing signs every two and a half years (actually 2.5 days on average) and will tend to make many aspects in subsequent secondary progression charts. The Sun which may have had natal square aspects, for example, will move on around 30 years/days to form trine aspects to planets it formerly squared. This is indicative of the types of "developmental trends" that we will be examining.
2) The SOLAR ARC Progression chart -- not the normal chart wheel type, but the mid-point presentation using the Solar Arc movement is quite different from the secondary progression chart. First, there is no retrograde motion to account for as everything moves ahead by the same movement-value as does the Sun.
Where the secondary progression chart -- lets call it a "2P" chart -- shows overall developmental trends, the Solar Arch chart -- lets call it the "Solar-P" chart -- focuses upon ones health and identity (Sun symbology) in terms of how the planets affect this aspect of oneself. Using the mid-point system, this type of chart seems to be quite useful as a prediction tool as well as a developmental tool that relates to health and self-hood.
HOW WE WILL PARTICIPATE
We will focus on SATURN and any aspects that it alone makes in either of the two forms of progression charts. THIS EXERCISE WILL HELP ALL TO APPLY WHAT WE LEARN TO ANY OF THE OTHER PLANETS AND ASPECTS IN THEIR CHARTS -- BUT WE NEED TO STICK TO WORKING WITH "SATURN".
Because we will collectively have a lot of questions about all of the aspects that we have, it may not be reasonable to expect me to answer each and every aspect offered for consideration. I will do what I can and if there is too much asked I will tend to focus on those who have actively and continually participated in the Planet Series threads first.
In the course of these responses and sharings of ones personal chart patterns involving Saturn and the manner in which you each experienced these timely developments, we will also share and learn a bit about how to interprete the two types of charts I noted. FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY I WOULD PREFER THAT WE NOT FOCUS ON OTHER FORMS OF PROGRESSED CHARTS IN ANY DETAIL -- just the developing, actual or departing aspects and their timing and experience.
Dave.
