celticnoodle
I guess I would have to admit that her writing is not as easy to understand at times as I would like it to be. I truly found the hardest part being that I don't use the same meanings to the cards that she does, and so when I am reading through the pages, I have to remember for example, that I do not see the fours as such troubling cards, like she does.
however, that said, I do think she has some interesting things to teach. If you are also going to use her method strictly with playing cards, it may be much easier to understand, as long as you again adopt her meanings for each card/suit.
since this discussion picked up again, I have been thumbing through the book on more information with the face cards--since, let's admit, the court cards are definately the hardest cards to read for most people. Reading page 158-159 helps also with court cards, if you happen to get 3 court cards together in a trio.
first of all, you need to understand that when you do see 3 face cards it indicates (in her opinion) that your social life is improving, or at least will be in an "upswing with new friends, colleagues, and incresed contact with others." this also would indicate "new opportunities to become productively involed with others are on the way to bring new shape and meaning to their lives." this makes total sense to me---but would anyway in the way that LB first described court cards too.
what i like most here is when Deborah Leigh tells us to pay attention to the way the faces on the court cards are looking. If they are looking to the left, then they are looking at us--then 'consider the message to be that you will share meaningful,close-knit relationships with these individuals who have yet to enter your life."
"on the other hand, those face cards which you find turned away from you hold the intuitive message that these relationships will be far more casual but nonetheless meaningful stepping stones to a more rewarding people connected future in the long run".
I also use this same method with the tarot cards that have any individual in the card. I pay close attention to how the face is turned, as well as the expression in their face. Yes, I guess this is common sense for readers, or maybe it is not. When I first began to read cards, it was with a playing cards deck--and the court cards were always a handful. then i went to tarot, and did actually find tarot a bit easier to read, except again those terrible court cards. I can't recall when or where I learned to pay attention to the faces in the people on the cards--or to read the cards that are layed out as the left being in the past and the right the future. but it sure makes sense now and helps with reading tarot.
however, that said, I do think she has some interesting things to teach. If you are also going to use her method strictly with playing cards, it may be much easier to understand, as long as you again adopt her meanings for each card/suit.
since this discussion picked up again, I have been thumbing through the book on more information with the face cards--since, let's admit, the court cards are definately the hardest cards to read for most people. Reading page 158-159 helps also with court cards, if you happen to get 3 court cards together in a trio.
first of all, you need to understand that when you do see 3 face cards it indicates (in her opinion) that your social life is improving, or at least will be in an "upswing with new friends, colleagues, and incresed contact with others." this also would indicate "new opportunities to become productively involed with others are on the way to bring new shape and meaning to their lives." this makes total sense to me---but would anyway in the way that LB first described court cards too.
what i like most here is when Deborah Leigh tells us to pay attention to the way the faces on the court cards are looking. If they are looking to the left, then they are looking at us--then 'consider the message to be that you will share meaningful,close-knit relationships with these individuals who have yet to enter your life."
"on the other hand, those face cards which you find turned away from you hold the intuitive message that these relationships will be far more casual but nonetheless meaningful stepping stones to a more rewarding people connected future in the long run".
I also use this same method with the tarot cards that have any individual in the card. I pay close attention to how the face is turned, as well as the expression in their face. Yes, I guess this is common sense for readers, or maybe it is not. When I first began to read cards, it was with a playing cards deck--and the court cards were always a handful. then i went to tarot, and did actually find tarot a bit easier to read, except again those terrible court cards. I can't recall when or where I learned to pay attention to the faces in the people on the cards--or to read the cards that are layed out as the left being in the past and the right the future. but it sure makes sense now and helps with reading tarot.
Rif, I'd be interested, please. I do not have this book -yet-, but since hearing about it, am interested in knowing how this book works--so please do share some of things you find most helpful. thanks.rif said:In general, I think "The Message" is well-written. It has the tone of a kind and optimistic friend who truly wants to help you. I think it has value in general, with respect to reading cards. I don't mean to claim it's a top-10 book for me, but I do think it gives a lot of useful guidance on the reading process.
As for the question about how courts are described -- I'm at work now, but I'd be happy to check for how the court reading is written up when I'm at home, if anyone would like.