"Tarot of Besancon" by Blanche and Milanese Tarot by Gumppenberg in Miike Museum

kenji

"Tarot of Besancon" by Blanche and Milanese Tarot by Gumppenberg in Miike Museum

Hello all:)

I visited Miike Museum again and took a lot of
pictures of "Tarot of Besancon" by Blanche and
Milanese Tarot by Gumppenberg.

Like "Miike-Conver" pictures, I can show you
the pictures "only privately".

So if anyone of you has interest, just PM me or
make a post here.

kenji
 

kenji

About "Tarot de Besancon" (TdB)

According to Mr Thierry Depaulis, 'Tarot de Besancon'
was coined in Strasbourg in the early 18th century
(J.B. Benois is a good example of "Strasbourg Tarot",
and its reproductions by Meneghello are still available
at ALIDA. ) , and then spread to other places.

Around 1800 Jean Jerger in Besancon made a "canon"
of TdB.
His successors proudly advertised that they were
making "Tarot de Joerger".
(See the picture of '2 of Cups'.)

The following is the chronological table of TdB which
Mr Depaulis gave me:

J. Jerger c.1800-25
Renault c.1825-50
A. Kirchner: c.1850-60
J. Blanche: c.1860-80


Interestingly, Benois' deck and Blanche's are extremely
alike but there are some slight differences.
For example, XVI "LA MAISON DIEU" of Blanche has no
"scattering balls" around the tower, but the tower has
a DOOR at the botom of it!
(Behold, Camoin Lovers! :) )

And I also recommend comparing TdB with TdM.
You'll see TdB has more in common with Dodal or Payen,
than Conver.


TdB should be paid much more attention, I think.
In my opinion, it had a great influence on Swiss and Milanese Tarots, and also Eliphas Levi, Oswald Wirth...

kenji
 

kenji

About Gummpenberg deck, "ca.1820"

This Gumppenberg deck is very similar in design to
the Milanese Tarots reproduced by Meneghello and
De Vecchi.
However, the KING of BATONS of this pack has
"C. 60." tax stamp on it. (See the picture.)
According to KAPLAN II (p245), this tax stamp was
used between 1818 and 1823.
(Mr Depaulis assured me the date.)
So it can be concluded that this is older than the
original of Meneghello & De Vecchi decks.

If you compare it with the images of Tarot of Besancon,
you'll see there is a strong resemblance between them
(excluding JUNON and JUPITER, of course! ;) ).
 

kenji

Miike-Conver

And I made a new link page to the images of
"Miike-Conver" cards, which are the oldest
examples of Conver cards exhisting.

If interested, just let me know;)
 

Black*Cat

Re: Miike-Conver

Ooooh kenji - what a fascinating day in the Miike Museum. I would love to see your link, & the pictures, I'll pm you.


kenji said:
And I made a new link page to the images of
"Miike-Conver" cards, which are the oldest
examples of Conver cards exhisting.

If interested, just let me know;)
 

Fulgour

Antichi Tarocchi Lombardi

Hello Kenji,

My Lo Scarabeo edition of the Antichi Tarocchi Lombardi
gives credit to, Ferdinando Gumppemberg Milano 1810.
I can honestly say I wish I had an entire book on this deck.
Wouldn't it be great if we could sit down and chat with the
artists who crafted these exquisitely charming masterpieces?

Fulgour

Aeclectic Tarot Review(s)
 

kenji

Thanks Black*Cat & Fulgour:)
I've sent you PM containing the URLs
for the pictures.

Especially Blanche cards are astonishingly
beautiful, aren't they?;)
 

Fulgour

thank you, kenji

The cards are beautiful, and will be a treasured addition to my
small collection. I was intriqued about the Miike Museum, and
found an article which included the following:

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Miike Playing Card Memorial Museum

Among the many interesting features of Omuta is playing cards, which were introduced to Japan by Portuguese people in Miike at the end of the 16th century. Miike Playing Card Memorial Museum features many antique cards which are beautifully decorated. The word karuta, or playing cards, is of Portuguese origin.

In the Ogura Hyakunin Isshu game, you match 100 famous poems with the 100 authors. This originated during the Edo Era, and is still played, especially during the New Year holidays. There are sets of 10 famous poems available for beginners, but there are few to match the beauty of these early cross-cultural
ambassadors.

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Again, many thanks!
 

Cerulean

Two Di Gumppenberg books

Di Vecchi puts out an edition of the Milanese Tarocchi that is essentially the Il Menghello edition with an esoteric book by Isa Donelli. Nothing wrong with it if you like a historical book with a modern take on divining with the cards in Italian. There is one half page on Di Gumppenberg and a mention of this deck, the 1830 design for mass production

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Lo Scarabeo in their 1995 art editions had small books with commentary by Giordano Berti and Marisa Chiesa (they were also editors for the Sola Busca tarot book). I managed to buy from Trigono the Italian "Antichi Tarocchi Lombardi" book--it's an expanded version of Berti's history of the tarots that I've seen in other art editions, with perhaps four pages of text that is unique to describing Milanese Tarocchi patterns.

Much of the information is translated in the LWB in the bigger sized and antiqued, larger Lo Scarabeo release of the Ancient Tarots of Lombardy deck, 2001 edition....it's also known as the Neoclassical. From Lo Scarabeo, I have both the 1995 yellow and 2001 beige bigger editions of the deck. I have a yellow oop Solloene version and smaller 2003 Il Menghello beige edition as well...

Stuart Kaplan's encyclopedia and the Italian book are the best references I can find so far.

If you want full scans of the yellow Il Solloene deck, I know that the Aleph-Tarot website shows the deck--but their meanings ascribed to the deck cards are a modern statement.

I would very much enjoy a link to the Milanese deck. If you want more information on the Italian Lo Scarabeo book--it's currently out of print---I might be able to retype the few pages that have anything to do with the deck at some point.

Regards,

Cerulean

P.S. I also have Di Gumppenberg's doublefigured Trade Sites of Milan, and the Corona Ferrara--both decorative trump, French pip decks. Among these, a few scraps of information on some Di Gumppenberg decks.
 

kenji

Thanks Fulgour and Mari :)
I'm very glad to hear you like them.

Mari, could you give me some detailed information
about Ferdinand Gumppenberg himself?

I know only that he was from Munich and came to
Milan in 1809, worked until around 1846...