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No, because I know that it excites you. But what do I care - after all, I'm not a mod on this forum website.
Ohhh ... but I have been good, havent I ?
(Now to run off and make trubs ' elsewhere ' ......
No, because I know that it excites you. But what do I care - after all, I'm not a mod on this forum website.
Browsing BoT tonight, I came across this passage in pp.33
Crowley too, sounds pretty sceptic on the part of astrological connections to Tarot cards. I was really saying what he was saying here.
I didn't imagine the GD people would have had copied exactly what had been done hundred or thousands years ago by the ancients, but they would have had their own clear principles and theories behind their system.
I will do some further research with the suggested preliminary readings. Just ordered afore mentioned Agrippa book from Amazon.
Ohhh ... but I have been good, havent I ?
(Now to run off and make trubs ' elsewhere ' ......
Well, its A system. Scepticism is perhaps best used after one comprehends a system , then you can fine tune it away from the general, which allows skeptical observation ... he didn;t seem that sceptical about his own revisions, calling the star emperor swap as his best proof ever of his whole 'revelation' .
(But it is a valid view, on one level, to be skeptical of everything, as long as one moves on from there and takes the action that should come from skeptical analysis )
It goes back even further. Micheal above approached the concept of 'Spheres' ) energies come in through Saturn, work their way inwards through 'crystalline' spheres of the planets, to the sphere around us, the Moon, and that regulates the energy to earth and us. It isnt just a planet whizzing around, its a whole sphere, we are all inside the sphere the sphere of Saturn ... and Jupiter and Mars , and so on, so a 'flux' or 'medium oif transference' is ever present .
Agrippa was a key node in this hermetic thought practice. In paces, he may be hard to understand as he wrote in a world that had a different time set.
I highly recommend this is read first { 1.} , even just chapter 1 , its clear and pretty brief, and will be invaluable knowledge for comprehending , how those people thought, and the whole basis of the concept of interrelationship between things and WHY they were considered certain things related to and influenced other things ( or represented their energies in a different mode) ..... the 'why' is a bit of a long story ; pre dualistic thought, hermetic thought coming from Plato, and other classic sources, some Egyptian, some from Zurvanism ( 'The Magi' ) and Zoroaster, 'Chaldeans' , Islamic Hermetics, Agrippa (Ficino's , 'Star Magic' { 2.} etc ) ... and for a modern excellent view on all of them and how they linked together in a 'philosopher chain', to lead up to present day concepts we have about 'magic / occult' etc (in such a rationalist scientific age ! ) I highly recommend {3.}
1. https://archive.org/details/originsofmoderns007291mbp (free book )
2. http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/ficinotheoryastromagic.html (site article .... Ficino is pretty essential node in development of these ideas )
3 . http://www.harpur.org/PJCHsecretfire.htm (" He uncovers that tradition which alchemists imagined as a Golden Chain of initiates, who passed their mysterious 'secret fire' down through the ages." )
If you read Ch 1 of Butterwoth (1.) , and follow the progression of people through history outlined in 'Philosopher's Secret Fire' ( 3.) , you will have such a head start on anything you read afterwards .... and be immune to Crowley's above criticisms , well, partially ( No one can be completely immune )
I highly recommend this is read first { 1.} , even just chapter 1 , its clear and pretty brief, and will be invaluable knowledge for comprehending , how those people thought, and the whole basis of the concept of interrelationship between things and WHY they were considered certain things related to and influenced other things ( or represented their energies in a different mode) ..... the 'why' is a bit of a long story ; pre dualistic thought, hermetic thought coming from Plato, and other classic sources, some Egyptian, some from Zurvanism ( 'The Magi' ) and Zoroaster, 'Chaldeans' , Islamic Hermetics, Agrippa (Ficino's , 'Star Magic' { 2.} etc ) ... and for a modern excellent view on all of them and how they linked together in a 'philosopher chain', to lead up to present day concepts we have about 'magic / occult' etc (in such a rationalist scientific age ! ) I highly recommend {3.}
1. https://archive.org/details/originsofmoderns007291mbp (free book )