Scans of Tourcaty, Lequart, Conver Bicentennial and Chosson

Adrian Goldwetter

Tx Abrac I just looked.

Patrick Hederman should have got it a bit right there:

>> The SM emblazoned on the front describes the opposites that need to be combined, a symbiosis of conflicting needs required to harness creatively the turbulent violence of instinctual nature. Domination is not the answer; nor is craven submission. Discipline comes from harmonious involvement in appropriate and spontaneous activity. <<

He is talking about the horses that are depicted like they would like to go in opposite directions but finally the RED (Sulphur) one should lead the course of the action like on the concerned stage of the alchemical work we are educated about when watching - there is a functional HARNESS to chain the FORCES to a CAUSE (The CHARIOT) - BUT no REIGNS are involved and so no CONTROL like WE would know it.

The "control" would be the WISDOM of The CHARIOTEER who KNOWS his "customers" {S.M} [sic!] and "steers" them by providing the proper CONDITIONS (due to their instinctive nature) that will seduce both to go where HE wants them > The (al)chemical REACTION.

After all: BOTH went through the WEDDING (Hieros Gamos) before (AFTER they met on VI) and now are honeymooning like crazy.

TRUE TAROT: page 64 - picture 36 F-1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT


The slippery nature of Mercury (being code for a special kind of water) must be heated with Sulphur's help and afterwards condensed to develop further because The REBIS is waiting to be born.
One half of The HOLY is waiting in the chariot albeit in the guise of the charioteer that needs to be accompanied by the insightful JUSTICE to share according to entitlement and not necessarily equal - but that would be for a thread not for a comment...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebis


TRUE TAROT: page 76 - picture 40 B

http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT


In short the 2 forces of nature Sulphur & Mercury embodied by the horses are lead by their nature so that they can reach their full potential together while they are chained to a cause that is destined to a triumphant end.



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On another hand it's always fun to hear jmd talk alchemy and the why and the how - like here.

The names and abbreviations are in some cases questionable - at least concerning that seemingly ... idea in Tarot circles that NasCONVER stands for an author with the Name Nicolas Conver who was not even born when "his" deck was made - but obviously only when you dare to believe in the account in the Bibliothèque nationale de France:

http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb43706229t

http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb16721159s


Quote: Conver, Nicolas (1784-1833). Graveur


So: tx for the link Abrac

Adrian

P.S. @ Sumada: for {V.T} [sic!] you could have a try with V.I.T.R.I.O.L and see how you like it because alchemists used the funniest methods to disguise their cause. It goes in a similar direction as the {S.M} Not identical though to a T - but since MERCURY could not only be looked at as WATER because of it's fleeting motion - it is a METAL with shiny properties.

A little example for V.I.T.R.I.O.L (quote from link):

>> One unique property of sulfuric acid is the dissolution [to stay in our fiery allegory above we cold go with "burning" instead of "dissolution" because when we burn something ASHES are left after the process] of metals- all except for gold, on which it has no effect. <<

http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2658

When you will click there you will see this illustration often showing up in alchemical works by modern interpreters.

Well known title: The Green Lion Devouring The Sun

The text of the inscription translated into modern English by contemporary alchemical experts I was told:
>> Of Our Mercury which is the Green Lion Devouring the Sun <<



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Well - he is NOT (or only in a way... ) That's the whole point of the picture.

The SUN is CODE for GOLD that can NOT be eaten by the most aggressive Lion and it's sharp teeth (The SULPHURIC ACID > Sulphur) under normal circumstances.

You see The SUN with a quite HAPPY face between the fangs of the beast and The BLOOD stems NOT from The SUN but from his GUMS who let the TEETH go...

When you can identify/make a special GREEN lion instead that can do just that you are back on track (in short).
As the lore goes you have to add Mercury TO the Sulphur(ic acid) so that the NATURE of the usual lion (carnivorous - aggressive - wild - ... ) is CHANGED.

NOW Sulphur & Mercury (The WEDDING above!) can go on the hunt for The SUN (that is NOT only code for GOLD but plenty of other subjects from very different realms of NATURE) TOGETHER (as in > The CHARIOT - especially in the {V.T} VII where the author had both horses painted the same color because in HIS mindset they were perceived as ONE force already) to achieve wondrous things!
The REBIS!

Since The SUN came up this morning (and probably will keep doing so for some time) and ALCHEMISTS claimed that a green LION was in their possession for DEVOURING the light this should be another picture for something else.

DEVOURING could mean TRANSFORM because that is what happens after eating...
And The BLOOD that is spilled here (because it is alchemy!) can be taken for The ESSENCE of LIFE and to get a grip on that you should know about HOW human conception and the circle of nature was perceived in the (at least) 16th century where this picture was documented.

Not all that is spilled is blood and a special blood can be only spilled ONCE.

Back to top now :)
 

Adrian Goldwetter

Peculiarities

While I was cruising through Sumada's scans on flickr in the link he gave because I was searching for other scans he could have possibly made of decks that could proof useful for my up and coming Ouroboros project I came upon some interesting peculiarities.

Sumada takes a great interest in the table of The BATELEUR - like me (and perhaps everybody interested in TAROT should).

I alerted him to a change that was made by France Cartes in at least 1990 to the dice there by changing the pips of the upper die from 5 to 4 which is a GREAT deal.



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It can be found here and was confirmed by the site owner due to personal inspection:

http://www.albideuter.de/html/grimaud-marteau_1.html

Maybe the PM got lost in the system somehow like it happens to e-mails sometimes - but because it should be everybody's interest (in my humble opinion) I thought I could make a post concerning this matter on the table at hand on several scans Sumada made already available in his "flickr treasure box ".

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sumadas-treasure-box/page10

Some peculiarities that are not well presented on the net in the whole:

Vandenborre 1770 - I:



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2 Dice - 1 + 6 / Pince-nez


Pince-nez like on Jean Noblet ( > page 10)

https://de.scribd.com/doc/241968716/Tarotee-The-Back-Door-To-The-Secret-tarothistory-dot-com-pdf

explained and put to use (and the dice too) - 7th post from top:

http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1044&start=50

How the structure of the 5 pips on the die is transformed into CARDS on the TABLE were the GAME takes place is PRODUCED you can see on scribd in TRUE TAROT from page 6 (picture 1) to page 44 (picture 34 C):

http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT

And here is the 44th page converted from PDF to JPG and scaled down to 25% with said 5 pips structure that occurs naturally when the cards are treated correctly like presented thereat:



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Speaking of different pips on dice in my PM to him and the similarity between the Marteau/Grimaud and the Jean Noblet that was broken by France Cartes I see in his treasure box that the Flornoy editions seem to have different pips too.

Jean Noblet - Flornoy - I:



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Flornoy's own in an edition of mine:



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The Ignaz Krebs - Piatnik - I refers with the 6 of diamonds (! > The KILIM/Tarotée) to the same numerical value as Jean Noblet in the genuine example of 1650 (the 3rd die is cut OFF by the knife symbolically (explained in the already given link on TH) and later the Marteau/Grimaud with 1 + 5 (which repeat the 1 + 5 from the original Jean Noblet 1650 in an unusual manner (only one SIDE of the dice are shown and all others invisible and so NOT of importance).



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The reconstructed Rodes Sanchez - I (that is tagged Le Mat (?) in his box) has it ALL in principle: The dice of the original JN 1650 1 + 5 on the upper side (that counts in a game with dice). The 6 diamonds are repeated as 6 circles on a card (?).



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What THEY have done wrong is to change the position of the KNIFE that is exchanged with the SHEATH (compared to the JN) and so can NOT cut off the useless die - explained in the above link from the 7th post onward too:

http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1044&start=50


And of course the Jodorowsky - Camoin was totally messed up not only in this respect.



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Until this moment I didn't find what I was looking for in his box but I'll keep searchin' because I thought this all might be interesting for you too and could be that someone could show me to possibly existing scans of the earliest edition of the Marteau/Grimaud 1748/1930 where the dice and the "tulip" sprang into existence?

Tx for watching

Adrian
 

Sumada

Adrian, got your messages at lsst thanks. I have PM'd a reply...
 

Adrian Goldwetter

Good to know the PM system is reasonable! I'll read ASAP.

Adrian

P.S. I've just replied by PM. Just so you know in the case of electronic disturbances :)