Tarocchino (62 Card) Decks

SittingIdiot

Does any one "read" with a tarocchino deck? Decks with 62 cards that do NOT include the 2, 3, 4, and 5 of each suite?

I have started to read with Dal Negro's "Tarocchini" of Mitelli's historical deck from 1665. I really love this deck (perhaps because Il Matto, Fool, reminds me of Larry Fineberg, AKA, "Larry" form the 3 Stooges). [Il Meneghello has a nice deck, too, based on Mitelli's etchings without illumination.]

Does anyone "miss" the presence of these lesser pips?

The few readings I've done with this deck work fine. Has anyone had experieince with this or another tarocchino deck?
 

SittingIdiot

P.s.

And one more thing; the deck is much easier the shuffle.
 

wytchwood

hi, I've never read with one of these decks, but it reminded me of certain 'Gypsy' methods for reading with playing cards. I believe that Mlle Lenormand used this method.

Zoe
 

Elven

I havent seen this deck, but I would love to read with one :)
Thankyou for the thread - another deck I need to get *sheesh!* ;) :D

Blessings Elven x
 

jackdaw*

SittingIdiot said:
[Il Meneghello has a nice deck, too, based on Mitelli's etchings without illumination.]
There's also a Dal Negro version that uses the same base as the Il Meneghello, but with lovely soft colouring. It's very pretty, but the cards are too big to use comfortably.
 

frelkins

why not do as the bolognese do -- have an espresso and play tarocchino? i'm sure if you've been walking through some of the neighborhoods of bologna you've seen the old men in front of their clubs in the piazette in the sunshine playing cards. many of them are probably playing tarocchino! this isn't a cartomancy deck per se. many of these card games were invented because at various times in italian history the civic and religious authorities outlawed dice, chess, and backgammon in an effort to control public gambling.
 

Alan Ross

I have a limited edition reproduction of a 19th century deck called the "Tarocchino Lombardo" (Edizioni del Solleone, Lissone 1981). However, it has a full set of 78 cards. I'm wondering if it was mislabeled. It is identical in appearance to the Soprafino Tarot.
 

frelkins

alan, do you read italian? if not, use google or babelfish to translate this page:http://it.geocities.com/a_pollett/cards14i.htm. it will talk about your lombard deck, which was used for playing regional card games.

each region -- each town even -- in italy to this day has its own very ancient card games, some of which people try to preserve. the italians are very proud of these old traditions, be it card games or cheese-rolling contests.

your lombard tarot deck was certainly used to play -- and probably still is -- some italian regional card game. look carefully at your deck and see if it corresponds to those described for traditional lombard trick-taking games.

if your cards have arabic numbers, they may be used to play games like scarto and mitigati, which are now said to be rare. (http://www.pagat.com/national/italy.html)
 

Alan Ross

I found an old thread with some fascinating info on my deck, in particular a post by Jeannette of Tarot Garden. It seems my deck, the Tarocchino Lombardo, actually is closely related to the Soprafino Tarot. This is the link I found:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=24103&page=5

I'm still curious about the "Tarocchino" designation. Is that usually applied only to 62 card decks? Why would it have been applied to my 78 card deck?

Edited to add: I just read further in the same thread and I got my answer. This is from Cerulean:

"1.Tarocchino can refer to a slimmer card size, a 78 card deck as in Tarocchino Milanese with variations:

http://www.tarothermit.com/milanese.htm

or in terms of Tarocchino Bolognese, a smaller card count such as 40, 45, 60...etc...

So if it is a slimmer size or smaller card count, it feels like a departure."

The cards in my deck are quite slim, so that is clearly the reason for the "Tarocchino" designation.
 

Bernice

Original Post: SittingIdiot
Does any one "read" with a tarocchino deck? Decks with 62 cards that do NOT include the 2, 3, 4, and 5 of each suite?
Here you you go!

Tarocco Bolognese/Bolognese Tarot divinatory meanings which can also be used with the Mitelli Tarocchini (scroll down);

http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/Bolognese_Tarot_Divination

Further description and more info. about this deck;
http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/Tarot_Decks:_Bolognese

A way to read with a 62 card deck :thumbsup:

Bee :)