Titadrupah
I was referring to what you call a group, as a sub-forum. But yes, it would be a 6th group. I just corrected my post.
I was referring to what you call a group, as a sub-forum. But yes, it would be a 6th group. I just corrected my post.
The issue is that the self-defined REAL historians here - whenever a theory is posted for speculation on what might be true (see under Behenian stars where - for once - it didn't happen) leap upon the posters who want to discuss it (discussion is NOT the same as criticism, BTW: I happen to hate the word critique here; "criticism" is perfectly valid, meaning the same thing, and does NOT intrinsically mean negative feeling and finding fault) - and effectively say if you aren't a proper historian like us, and cannot adduce proof, go away - you don't belong here. This has been going on so long that I am not sure how it can be ended without a subforum for these discussions, where these people who pour cold water on speculative discussion of unsubtantiated theory can have it pointed out that speculative theories are allowed.I suppose much rests on what the purpose of this speculation is intended to be. If it is to drive new directions of thought and investigation in learning the truth, ie history, then ultimately it must be subject to rigourous critique or it cannot begin to contribute to that goal.
However, if the speculations are not to be open to serious critique, then something like 'flights of fancy' would be right, as that is all it can amount to. However, if they are to be open to critique, then the existing forum should be sufficient. It is not that historians object to speculative threads, they object when such threads are poorly presented to look as if they are intended to be something more substantial. Let's be generous and call this a misunderstanding - something that can be dealt with by posting a clear guide for posters, one that goes so far as to suggest how best to present a post so that such errors won't happen again.
Not Myth - that immediately suggests it isn't "true" - and some speculations might turn out to be.Tarot Myth: Ideology, Mystery, & Possibility
One in which those who say they know best stamp on such speculation with a mighty boot.If it is speculation, it is not necessarily history. History is the study of past events. Speculations based on historic data and the events around the history of your topic make sense and we have a forum for it...
If you think you can connect the dots and want to get other people to try and help - being stamped on is unhelpful and unpleasant.but speculations based on personal ideas with a foundation only the one speculating can connect the dots to is likely not history, it is fantasy.
I'd have liked to see that as a thread. Even if not true, the links with the designs would have been fascinating.I think enough is known about tarot that many of the alternative branches can be decisively discounted. If there is a new forum I would not like to see it as a sub forum in history, but rather in talking tarot, since we are asking for opinions I at one time had a pet theory the cards (Mamluks) came originally from Persian carpet designs, the symbols in them were taken out and put onto paper... I no longer believe this and I was able to disprove it fairly well before talking about it ( until now) on a forum.
Huck: A celebrity death match can always be organized if the numbers turn out to be low. Two or three mentions of pyramids and gypsies and bloodthirst would be aroused instantly, for the benefit of all audiences. Rating guaranteed. ; )
I suppose this terminology association goes back to my love of reading mythology in literature classes. We had the most interesting discussions, wondering about the factors in history (various nations & people being assimilated/conquered, etc.) that may have colored the stories.Not Myth - that immediately suggests it isn't "true" - and some speculations might turn out to be.
?? I know there is no dedicated Moderator listed for this forum.I'm not clear why this thread has been left in Historical Research