A good book, please suggestions

ivanna

I think I can wait. I need a really good astrology book with 1zillion pages and instructions for dummies. I would be gratefull if anyone can recommend me something. And must include good explanations about transits and aspects. The last book I got was tooo basic. Very few explanations beyond the meaning of houses, signs and planets. And was the Parkers Astrology btw.
 

Chanah

You might want to take a look at this page: http://astroamerica.com/menu.html

The late Dave Roell owned AstroAmerica, and Dave was a most passionate astrologer! His wife still has the bookstore, and a lot of Dave's writings up. The page I gave you lists the astrology books by topic, frequently accompanied by Dave's reviews. He was pretty out there (and admitted it), but he was a good reviewer.

I don't think you'll find one zillion page book with everything you need, but you may find some good books on different aspects of astrology, like signs, houses, planets, predictive techniques. You also might want to think about whether you want to go into modern psychological astrology, humanistic astrology, Western predictive (traditional) astrology, jyotish, and other specialisations.

Astro America is a good place to start for an overview of astrology books, though, maybe the best, since they sell all sorts.
 

Minderwiz

As you live in Spain, the AstroAmerica site may not be the best to buy from in terms of price, but as Chanah says it can help you narrow down your choice by browsing and reading some of the reviews. Then check if you can get the same book locally or at a European supplier, such as The Wessex Astrologer or the Midheaven Bookshop at a lower price. Don't forget that there may be VAT or Customs Duties to pay on imports from the US, depending on Spanish VAT regulations and import rules. In the UK, goods valued at less than £135 are exempt from duty (but not VAT). That seems a good deal to me but the value includes the costs of shipping and insurance.

http://www.wessexastrologer.com/
http://www.midheavenbooks.com/

Chanah's point on the approach you're going to take is becoming more and more important as. When I began to learn there was one very dominant approach and virtually all introductory and mid-level books were written from that point of view. Now the range of approaches makes this first choice more difficult because you could end up with a book that isn't in tune with the way you want to study.

I also agree with Chanah that you are unlikely to find one book that will suffice. Indeed you are likely to eventually have several. So you might also look through the resources thread

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=15205
 

Chanah

I agree with Minderwiz - buying from AstroAmerica is not the best idea, but the reviews are very informative, and the books are organised by category. Also, it's a pretty democratic place, whether you're looking for ancient Greek stuff or the latest in asteroid lore.
 

ivanna

Maybe what I need is abook for houses, a bok for transits and a book for aspects. I saw a couple well rated on amazon.es.
 

Minderwiz

Maybe what I need is abook for houses, a bok for transits and a book for aspects. I saw a couple well rated on amazon.es.

Houses:

The Houses - Temples in the Sky bh Deborah Houlding - short but excellent run down of house meanings from early to modern times.

Houses of the Horoscope by Alan Oken - modern view longer than Houlding but not as useful overall because Houlding is much easier to find what you're looking for.

The House Book by Stephanie Camilleri. This lists each planet in each house. Again a modern account, so it includes the outer planets and it's not too bad in mis-assigning activities to houses.

The Twelve Houses by Howard Sasportas. This was written in the mid 1980s and shows only a dim awareness that perhaps the Astrological Alphabet approach to the Houses is wrong. This is excusable in that the traditional revival had not really got underway but really is now a rather dangerous text to use to learn about the houses. It's also the fattest tome and therefore the more expensive of the four.

I would suggest starting with Houlding and if you decide on a modern approach then Camilleri as your second. If you get into esoteric Astrology, then add Oken.

Aspects

Logically you need to know about these before you can tackle transits. Aspects are now given more emphasis because many, if not most of the traditional techniques for linking planets have been lost and are now being slowly recovered. Aspects were always important but they were placed in an 'astrological toolbox' that is now reduced considerably.

Aspects in Astrology by the late Sue Tomkins. This became the 'bible' of the modern approach to aspects and if you follow the psychological approach you really need it sooner or later.

The Sun & The Aspects by Maurice McCann. This is an excellent book on the theory of aspects combining the traditional with the modern. It discusses issues like orbs, planets other relationships to each other and a lot more in a slim volume crammed full of useful information. This was published twelve years ago but since then doubt has been cast on Ptolemy's role as an Astrologer (though he remains a pre-eminent Astronomer) and it's even been questioned whether his view of the triplicities and terms was ever used in practice till the late medieval times.

Harmonics in Astrology by John Addey. Since Kepler's attempts in the Seventeenth Century to 'rationalise' Astrology emphasis has been placed more on the angles between planets than on the qualities of their sign placements, which in turn has generated a host of 'new aspects' starting with Kepler's conversion of being inconjunct or aversion into the quincux and semi-sextile and adding in sem-squares and quintiles for good measure. Addey takes this several stages further by diving the circle by successive numbers to create 'harmonics'. This is still a very fashionable theory.

Traditional Astrologer did not write books on aspects, they had more important things to discuss LOL , aspects were only the classic majors and these were covered sufficiently to use them in any introductory work on Astrology. Wiliam Lilly considers them in less than a page./ The imporant thing with aspects was do they help or hinder the planet that is being considered. Usually Trines and Sextiles to benefics help, Squares and Oppositions to malefics hinder. The way in which help or hindrance comes about can be taken from the natural (and accidental) signification of the planets involved.


Transits

For the modern Astrologer, transits are often the starting point for prediction and, when I learned, the approach tended to be Transits for Mars or Jupiter outwards and Secondary Progressions for the inner planets, and most especially the Moon.

Traditional Astrology always saw Transits as the last thing to look at, having used other techniques to identify important time periods in someone's life. Transits then narrowed this down to days or even hours, rather than weeks or months. Most of the 'higher' techniques have largely been lost, though Solar Returns are becoming more widely used and Primary Directions (and for that matter other directions) are being used. So you might need to buy a book that looks at more than one predictive method.

Planets in Transit by Rob Hand. The classic text for modern Astrologers but largely rejected by its author, who now propounds a traditional approach. A large volume giving virtually every conceivable transit. This doesn't look at anything else but transits.

Secondary Progressions by Nancy Hastings. Again another 'bible' of the psychological approach

The Art of Predictive Astrology by Carol Rushman. Combines progressions and transits in the way that I mentioned in the introduction to this section.

Again, because of their position at the bottom of the list of predictive techniques, traditional authors didn't really write books on Transits. Even Jean Baptiste Morin, who did write such a book as part of his Astrologica Gallica, put it at the end of the sequence, having discussed primary directions and solar returns first. It doesn't make any sense to read this book on a stand alone basis. So simply see Transits as triggering events that are already foreshadowed by more long term analysis. They are unlikely to have any effect at all, unless they indicate things have shown up in a more 'advanced' technique. Modern Astrology might have difficulties explaining why a transit has no effect (often by claiming that the effect was an inner one, rather than something that happened in the external world). Traditional Astrology says that some transits may pass us by without any effect at all. As the tradition is concerned with the outside world, both of these approaches could be 'true' in this respect.
 

ivanna

THank you for this post, is really helpfull.
I found a free downloadable book by Arroyo that may be general as the Parkers Astrology, but worth a reading to get more knowledges, so first I will read that one. Also I got a book on Amazon called the art of predictive astrology (or similar) which will arrive in a couple of weeks, c.a.
After that, I may get any of the books you listed here. Thanks so much!
 

dadsnook2000

When I started studying astrology

When I started studying astrology I ended up with about 375 books in the first ten years. Then I threw out about 300 of them. Someone in town, whom I don't know, picked them up at the Town Dump where we have a "Swap Shop." All sorts of things get left there for others to pick up and use. When I went back an hour later, all of the books were gone.

The point is, there is a lot to learn. Some books are general in nature; you have run across some of them and they don't take you far. Your comment about a book for houses, a book for planets, a book for aspects is actually a good path to take. However, you can augment your books with on-line information that can be quite extensive in nature. You may not have to buy books like I had to before there were computers and the Internet.
 

ivanna

When I started studying astrology I ended up with about 375 books in the first ten years. Then I threw out about 300 of them. Someone in town, whom I don't know, picked them up at the Town Dump where we have a "Swap Shop." All sorts of things get left there for others to pick up and use. When I went back an hour later, all of the books were gone.

The point is, there is a lot to learn. Some books are general in nature; you have run across some of them and they don't take you far. Your comment about a book for houses, a book for planets, a book for aspects is actually a good path to take. However, you can augment your books with on-line information that can be quite extensive in nature. You may not have to buy books like I had to before there were computers and the Internet.


OMG, you bought over 37 books per year during ten years? Well, I think I do not have enough money to do so.
Internet is a usefull source of knowledge, but for the begginings I prefer a couple of books to read comfortably im bed before going to sleep. :)
Now I have two books more, one free and one coming from Amazon and with this I will have enough to chew for a while.
After that I will see. Maybe I am able to find enough about houses, planes, transists and aspects on the site, if not, I may get another book.
The problem I find in internet that many times the info is not organized, or just copy and pasted from other sites, I think is a matter of finding a good source of knowledge.
The fellows here linked some interesting sites, so after my two books I may seal through those sites.

Thank you!
 

Minderwiz

When I started studying Astrology

I first got interested in my late teens, so that's going back about 50 years. However I didn't really make it into being a genuine beginner, it didn't make any sense to me. I tried again in my early twenties and began to construct my own chart. I ended up confused with all those aspects and planets. Even worse it was full of psychology and that was not what I was looking for. I'd studies psychology as part of my degree and wished I hadn't. I wanted something that predicted 'real' things (of course that leads to a discussion of what is 'real' but I won't go there LOL). I think by that point I had an introductory book and a lot of copies of a serialised work called 'Man, Myth and Magic'.

I tried again nearly ten years later when my daughter was born. More charts, more introductory books (but not many) and more psychology. I could understand why people were interested in that side, but I still found it left me cold and unfulfilled as far as Astrology was concerned. What's more I had pages of notes some of them saying the same thing some of them contradictory and I was expected to sort them out into an 'integrated' whole. I tried but then pressure of work created a break and it got pushed to one side.

It remained pushed to one side for nearly twenty years, A reorganisation left me redundant and I tried Astrology again, mainly as the result of a TV programme. This time I bought more books and by then the internet was firmly established. Once again I was faced with all that psychology but to help me through, I signed up for a distance learning course and made myself keep going. Without the course I would have dropped out again. So that's one possible thing you might thing you might consider. You don't need to do anything professional, it's your hobby not your livelihood, though if you end up feeling that it should be your career, then you can more easily take that step to a Diploma course.

The one thing about the course that I found stimulating was that it introduced me to other approaches and particularly the tradition. It was where I discovered horary. However it remained largely a standard modern course with a few twists. I went on and did a further distance learning course on Applied Astrology, and this one was more related to the tradition. There were modules on horary and medical Astrology. And I found them fascinating. The book numbers took off, if not to Dave's level then getting on for it. I had learned that there was much more to Astrology than simply natal chart analysis from one particular point of view.

Like Dave, I also ended up with a lot of books that I didn't use and indeed largely rejected, a number of them are in the book list i gave you. However they had helped me find my way, even if by only showing me what I didn't want and helped me to refine the idea of what I did want.

So, firstly, don't rush things. Take it at your own pace and be prepared to read divergent texts and sources. I went off at several tangents, as I found topics that I was interested in or at least wanted to know more about. The course wasn't important in the sense that my degrees had been but it did give a structure to my study and therefore brought me back from several of those tangents.

Something that you might take from Dave's post is that unwanted books by one person are wanted by others, so start looking in second hand bookshops or at online sources for second hand books. In fact I think you've already started in that direction.

Also read widely, both on the internet and in books. There are several 'compendium' books that look at Astrology either from a historical dimension, from the earliest to the the present day, or look at the range of branches that Astrologers use or have used. Astrology can be used to look at events that have happened, help you make career decisions or choose when to start a new project, grow crops, look at the fortunes of nations or countries and many more things, few of which make it into an introductory book, yet in many ways are easier to learn and hone techniques than in natal analysis.

So good luck and hopefully come back for more information and support. :)