Huck
Well, we,ve to count:
6. position: Kronos/Rhea - 6 children
5. position: Hyperion/Theia - 3 children
4. position: Krios .... - 3 children (additional Themis: 3)
---- <--- what's this? That's the Abyss ... called the Styx.
3. position: Iapetos - 4 children (additional: Mnemosyne 9)
2. position: Koios - Phoibe - 2 children
1. position: Oceanos - Tethys - 3000 children
Themis and Mnemosyne get their children from Zeus and Zeus is their nephew, so somehow Themis and Mnemosyne have another function. Which?
Very easy:
Themis tells: There are 3 (lines)
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Mnemosyne tells: There are 9 (minor positions)
* * *
* * *
* * *
And this is the modell (which finally results):
18 17 16
15 14 13
12 11 10
-------------- <---- Styx
9 8 7
6 5 4
3 2 1
But in the moment we've (when leaving Themis and Mnemosyne, which are "stolen" by Zeus, aside):
6th position : 6 children
5th position : 3 children
4th position : 3 children
3th position : 4 children
2nd position : 2 children
1st position : 3000 children
6th: Kronos has 3 too much
5th: Hyperion is correct
4th: Krios is correct
3rd: Iapetos has one too much
2nd: Koios has a free place
1st: 3000 is nonsense, this means limitlessness; 3000 means "3 free places.
All this looks a little unordered and to make things correct, the poet organizes the battles of the Titans.
In the first part of the battle it is decided, that not Kronos and the older Titan-generation reigns in the future, but the children. So not Kronos-Rhea etc.. (the 12 Titans), but Zeus and his brothers and all his cousins (18 Titan-children).
In the second part of the battle Zeus has to fight against his cousins. These have a new chief and that's Atlas, son of Iapetos. Atlas is not good enough in the fight:
After it Atlas has to carry the heaven:
18 17 16
15 14 13 <---- THAT's HEAVEN
12 11 10
-------------- <---- Styx
8 <---- THAT's ATLAS
9 7
6 5 4
3 2 1
In the fight Menoitios, 4th son of Japetos, is thrown in the Tartaros:
18 17 16
15 14 13 <---- THAT's HEAVEN
12 11 10
-------------- <---- Styx
8 <---- THAT's ATLAS
9 7
6 4
5 <---- THAT'S MENOITIOS
3 2 1
For the complete order this means:
6th position : 6 children - has still 3 too much
5th position : 3 children
4th position : 3 children
3th position : 4 children - has now 3, cause Menoitios is dropped
2nd position : 2 children - has now 3, cause Menoitios entered
1st position : 3000 children - still nonsense.
After the fight the older "Olympians" are reigning and can now settle in the world. This solves the last problem, cause the daughters of Kronos simply take the vacant position in the Oceanos-system:
6th position : 3 sons of Kronos
5th position : 3 children
4th position : 3 children
3th position : 3 Iapetos-sons - figures of "humanity"
2nd position : 3 persons, Menoitios between 2 girls
1st position : 3 daughters of Kronos
And now we've (again) a Tarot, a sort of an Olympic (Pre)-Tarot, but now the figures have a story (in the Titanic Uranos-Gaia-version this was missing - that were only names with very few content) and somehow - now - the figures would be paintable.
We've:
1. Hestia - goddess of the cooking-fire. Always the first, when the gods are honoured
2. Hera - always interested, that the Olympic family developed properly.
3. Demeter - important for earth and corn
4. Asterie - the island
5. Menoitios - the man in the womb, the most hidden. The fallen soul on earh.
6. Leto - mother of the twins, which will come
7. Epimetheus - the stupid Iapetos-son, who married Pandora
8. Atlas - carries the heaven
9. Prometheus - the clever Iapetos-son
10. Pallas - who married Styx. Do you understand, why?
11. Asterios - the Lord of the stars
12. Perses - the wise
13. Selene - goddess of the moon
14. Helios - god of the sun
15. Eos - goddess of change
16. Hades - death
17. Zeus - the one
18. Poseidon - reigning the water
Well, I gave no reason, why which Titanic child got which position. Is Hera Nr 1, Nr. 2 or Nr. 3? Leto Nr. 4 or 5 or or 6? Prometheus Nr. 7 or 8 or 9? Pallas 10 or 11 or 12? Eos Nr 13 or 14 or 15? Poseidon Nr. 16 or 17 or 18?
It is so: Each of the 6th positions has a central figure, and each has a somewhat contradictious part and each has a uniting figure (uniting central figure and contradiction).
1+4+7+10+13+16 = contradictious figure
2+5+8+11+14+17 = central figure
3+6+9+12+15+18 = uniting figure
For instance: Main-Position 5 is about the sun. Helios (Nr. 14) is the central figure, Selene (Nr. 13) (which somehow means night and with that "missing sun") is the contradictious (negative) figure of the positive sun, and Eos (Nr. 15; = change) solves the conflict with "sometimes night, sometimes day".
Zeus is positive, Hades negative and Poseidon the figure of change.
The children of Krios (4th main position) are "dark" (they are the antithesis to the Olymp, which is "light"). This makes to central figure Asterios to the Lord of the Stars (which gives him a strong erotical component btw.). Pallas is negative "dark", he marries Styx and his kids are fighters. Perses is wise ("uniting"), but he has the "dark" daughter Hecate.
Atlas is the central figure symbolizing "man". the stupid Epimetheus is the dark side of him, Prometheus the light side.
Menoitios is the central figure, a man between two woman, mirroring Helios (also between two woman). Asteria is negative to Zeu, becomes an island. Leto is positive to Zeus, gets twins.
Hera is superior to her sisters, cause she's the wife of Zeus.
Demeter is somehow the wife of Poseidon (she gets two children of him, Arion and Despoina), so she's part of his row. Hestia gets no children - she's is negative. She doesn't marry Hades, which is is her counterpart.
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Whatever you say, that's a Tarot. Intellectually it (already at this stage, and the end of it is far, as Greek mythology is arich field)) has more content than its poor relative from 15th century.
Huck (based on earlier considerations of autorbis)
6. position: Kronos/Rhea - 6 children
5. position: Hyperion/Theia - 3 children
4. position: Krios .... - 3 children (additional Themis: 3)
---- <--- what's this? That's the Abyss ... called the Styx.
3. position: Iapetos - 4 children (additional: Mnemosyne 9)
2. position: Koios - Phoibe - 2 children
1. position: Oceanos - Tethys - 3000 children
Themis and Mnemosyne get their children from Zeus and Zeus is their nephew, so somehow Themis and Mnemosyne have another function. Which?
Very easy:
Themis tells: There are 3 (lines)
******
******
******
Mnemosyne tells: There are 9 (minor positions)
* * *
* * *
* * *
And this is the modell (which finally results):
18 17 16
15 14 13
12 11 10
-------------- <---- Styx
9 8 7
6 5 4
3 2 1
But in the moment we've (when leaving Themis and Mnemosyne, which are "stolen" by Zeus, aside):
6th position : 6 children
5th position : 3 children
4th position : 3 children
3th position : 4 children
2nd position : 2 children
1st position : 3000 children
6th: Kronos has 3 too much
5th: Hyperion is correct
4th: Krios is correct
3rd: Iapetos has one too much
2nd: Koios has a free place
1st: 3000 is nonsense, this means limitlessness; 3000 means "3 free places.
All this looks a little unordered and to make things correct, the poet organizes the battles of the Titans.
In the first part of the battle it is decided, that not Kronos and the older Titan-generation reigns in the future, but the children. So not Kronos-Rhea etc.. (the 12 Titans), but Zeus and his brothers and all his cousins (18 Titan-children).
In the second part of the battle Zeus has to fight against his cousins. These have a new chief and that's Atlas, son of Iapetos. Atlas is not good enough in the fight:
After it Atlas has to carry the heaven:
18 17 16
15 14 13 <---- THAT's HEAVEN
12 11 10
-------------- <---- Styx
8 <---- THAT's ATLAS
9 7
6 5 4
3 2 1
In the fight Menoitios, 4th son of Japetos, is thrown in the Tartaros:
18 17 16
15 14 13 <---- THAT's HEAVEN
12 11 10
-------------- <---- Styx
8 <---- THAT's ATLAS
9 7
6 4
5 <---- THAT'S MENOITIOS
3 2 1
For the complete order this means:
6th position : 6 children - has still 3 too much
5th position : 3 children
4th position : 3 children
3th position : 4 children - has now 3, cause Menoitios is dropped
2nd position : 2 children - has now 3, cause Menoitios entered
1st position : 3000 children - still nonsense.
After the fight the older "Olympians" are reigning and can now settle in the world. This solves the last problem, cause the daughters of Kronos simply take the vacant position in the Oceanos-system:
6th position : 3 sons of Kronos
5th position : 3 children
4th position : 3 children
3th position : 3 Iapetos-sons - figures of "humanity"
2nd position : 3 persons, Menoitios between 2 girls
1st position : 3 daughters of Kronos
And now we've (again) a Tarot, a sort of an Olympic (Pre)-Tarot, but now the figures have a story (in the Titanic Uranos-Gaia-version this was missing - that were only names with very few content) and somehow - now - the figures would be paintable.
We've:
1. Hestia - goddess of the cooking-fire. Always the first, when the gods are honoured
2. Hera - always interested, that the Olympic family developed properly.
3. Demeter - important for earth and corn
4. Asterie - the island
5. Menoitios - the man in the womb, the most hidden. The fallen soul on earh.
6. Leto - mother of the twins, which will come
7. Epimetheus - the stupid Iapetos-son, who married Pandora
8. Atlas - carries the heaven
9. Prometheus - the clever Iapetos-son
10. Pallas - who married Styx. Do you understand, why?
11. Asterios - the Lord of the stars
12. Perses - the wise
13. Selene - goddess of the moon
14. Helios - god of the sun
15. Eos - goddess of change
16. Hades - death
17. Zeus - the one
18. Poseidon - reigning the water
Well, I gave no reason, why which Titanic child got which position. Is Hera Nr 1, Nr. 2 or Nr. 3? Leto Nr. 4 or 5 or or 6? Prometheus Nr. 7 or 8 or 9? Pallas 10 or 11 or 12? Eos Nr 13 or 14 or 15? Poseidon Nr. 16 or 17 or 18?
It is so: Each of the 6th positions has a central figure, and each has a somewhat contradictious part and each has a uniting figure (uniting central figure and contradiction).
1+4+7+10+13+16 = contradictious figure
2+5+8+11+14+17 = central figure
3+6+9+12+15+18 = uniting figure
For instance: Main-Position 5 is about the sun. Helios (Nr. 14) is the central figure, Selene (Nr. 13) (which somehow means night and with that "missing sun") is the contradictious (negative) figure of the positive sun, and Eos (Nr. 15; = change) solves the conflict with "sometimes night, sometimes day".
Zeus is positive, Hades negative and Poseidon the figure of change.
The children of Krios (4th main position) are "dark" (they are the antithesis to the Olymp, which is "light"). This makes to central figure Asterios to the Lord of the Stars (which gives him a strong erotical component btw.). Pallas is negative "dark", he marries Styx and his kids are fighters. Perses is wise ("uniting"), but he has the "dark" daughter Hecate.
Atlas is the central figure symbolizing "man". the stupid Epimetheus is the dark side of him, Prometheus the light side.
Menoitios is the central figure, a man between two woman, mirroring Helios (also between two woman). Asteria is negative to Zeu, becomes an island. Leto is positive to Zeus, gets twins.
Hera is superior to her sisters, cause she's the wife of Zeus.
Demeter is somehow the wife of Poseidon (she gets two children of him, Arion and Despoina), so she's part of his row. Hestia gets no children - she's is negative. She doesn't marry Hades, which is is her counterpart.
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Whatever you say, that's a Tarot. Intellectually it (already at this stage, and the end of it is far, as Greek mythology is arich field)) has more content than its poor relative from 15th century.
Huck (based on earlier considerations of autorbis)
