dadsnook2000
There has been interest expressed in exploring "Mid-points" (also know as half-sums) and in "Planets in Containment." The following definintions are offered:
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MID-POINTS: As popularly defined by Ebertin and Vitte (of Germany) and used by many modern astrologers, mid-points are formed when one planet or sensitive point lies at the mid-point of two (almost) identical arcs to two other planets. As measured by signs and degrees, an example would be one planet sextile two other planets -- one ahead of it, one behind it. Ebertin popularized the 90 degree dial (a fourth harmonic) based on the demonstrated manifestation of action and event emergence that is associated with that harmonic. Because a 90 degree dial (instead of a 360 degree dial or wheel) is used, any planet that is conjunct, opposite or square another planet in a conventional 360 degree chart would appear as a conjunction in a 90 degree chart. Planets or points at 45 or 135 degrees would appear as oppositions. The planet at the mid-point seeks to express itself through the combined characteristics of the other two planets. More discussion, detail and examples can be provided later as needed.
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PLANETS IN CONTAINMENT: Introduced in part by many authors, and used in various forms throughout history, the theory and use of "containments" has most comprehensively been articulated by John Sandbach and Ronn Ballard in their book Planets in Containment. A containment consists of any three planets in a row as measured CCW (zodiac advancement through the signs). Unlike mid-points, there does not have to be any equal arcs formed. Only the three sequential planets are considered, the first forming the basis or foundation, the second (middle) defines the meaning of expression, the third planet showing the direction of the interpretation. This is important as the order changes the interpretation. It is also important to restate that there does not have to be any specific distance or arc or aspect between the three planets, only the fact that they are "in a row" or sequentially adjacent to each other.
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HOW CAN WE EXPLORE MID-POINTS AND CONTAINEMENTS? We can take either or both of two approaches. 1) Utilize a well-known personality's chart, and/or 2) Address a specific planetary pattern (either mid-points or containments) in a chart that is of interest to forum members (yours or someone elses). We can also explore books, tools methodologies, orbs and other issues associated with this thread.
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I will introduce a chart in a later post, noting the ASC, MC, Sun and Moon positions to provide a brief context for exploring one or several mid-point or containment patterns. Meanwhile, any of the formum members are invited to post whatever. Have fun. Dave.
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MID-POINTS: As popularly defined by Ebertin and Vitte (of Germany) and used by many modern astrologers, mid-points are formed when one planet or sensitive point lies at the mid-point of two (almost) identical arcs to two other planets. As measured by signs and degrees, an example would be one planet sextile two other planets -- one ahead of it, one behind it. Ebertin popularized the 90 degree dial (a fourth harmonic) based on the demonstrated manifestation of action and event emergence that is associated with that harmonic. Because a 90 degree dial (instead of a 360 degree dial or wheel) is used, any planet that is conjunct, opposite or square another planet in a conventional 360 degree chart would appear as a conjunction in a 90 degree chart. Planets or points at 45 or 135 degrees would appear as oppositions. The planet at the mid-point seeks to express itself through the combined characteristics of the other two planets. More discussion, detail and examples can be provided later as needed.
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PLANETS IN CONTAINMENT: Introduced in part by many authors, and used in various forms throughout history, the theory and use of "containments" has most comprehensively been articulated by John Sandbach and Ronn Ballard in their book Planets in Containment. A containment consists of any three planets in a row as measured CCW (zodiac advancement through the signs). Unlike mid-points, there does not have to be any equal arcs formed. Only the three sequential planets are considered, the first forming the basis or foundation, the second (middle) defines the meaning of expression, the third planet showing the direction of the interpretation. This is important as the order changes the interpretation. It is also important to restate that there does not have to be any specific distance or arc or aspect between the three planets, only the fact that they are "in a row" or sequentially adjacent to each other.
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HOW CAN WE EXPLORE MID-POINTS AND CONTAINEMENTS? We can take either or both of two approaches. 1) Utilize a well-known personality's chart, and/or 2) Address a specific planetary pattern (either mid-points or containments) in a chart that is of interest to forum members (yours or someone elses). We can also explore books, tools methodologies, orbs and other issues associated with this thread.
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I will introduce a chart in a later post, noting the ASC, MC, Sun and Moon positions to provide a brief context for exploring one or several mid-point or containment patterns. Meanwhile, any of the formum members are invited to post whatever. Have fun. Dave.