Health Issues

lilith

Yes I am interested in learning more about doing readings for people with health issues.The only deck I am familiar with out there is the Herbal Tarot.Are there any other decks or books out there that can help me. I live in an area with a majority of senior citizens [I hope I spelled that right] and would like to be able pick up more from the cards about health issues.Thanks
 

HonestPuck

A note of caution to you. Tarot cards are not doctors, they are not pregnancy tests, they do not know if you have cancer or not, they will not predict when you will die. Please, go to a doctor if you feel sick.

But this might not be what you are talking about. I have found tarot to be effective in emotionally coping with health problems. I did a reading for a friend about his health, and it was helpful. But it didn't say how to make him better just how to help him get through this difficult time which is important information.
 

Mi-Shell

To councel on health issues using the Tarot can very well be counterproductive or even dangerous.....
Do you have any medical psychological training??? I just had a client who had been going to a "practicioner" because of a tight feeling in her throat and for 6 month the "practicioner" treated her throat chacra and told her to scream and or sing or verbalize her feelings...
The symptoms got worse. Now this mother of 3 young kids is facing surgery for advanced Thyroid cancer, that has infiltrated lungs and brainstem!!!!

If you want to learn more about Tarot cards as aids while facing health issues, read and study
Tarot for the healing heart from Christine Jette.

and send sick people to the apropiate physician / therapist!
 

Wildfyre

I agree with what's been said so far. Be very aware that if you plan on couseling people as to physical health issues, you will be bearing a heavy weight on your shoulders.

Doctors go to med-school for so long for a reason, ya know.
 

Grizabella

I'm a senior citizen and the only person I want picking up on my health issues is my physician. Trying to do it with tarot cards is foolish and dangerous and I hope you'll rethink this.
 

lilith

I have no intention of diagnosing anyone I just wanted to be able to understand if a question like this came up with a querent.If someone has chronic back pain and they came into you with that in mind...wouldn't you want to acknowledge that and encourage them to seek a doctor?How would you pick this up in a reading?
 

Wildfyre

There are cards that would give you that signal, such as the Nine of Swords. It's my usual preference to steer clear of giving medical advice, legal advice, etc. if it goes beyond the realm of what any "normal" person would say.

Most senior citizens already know to see their doctor if they're suffering from something chronic, such as back pain, migraines, bone pain, etc., but there are certain clients who might need to be guided in that direction.

Just be careful with what you say and how you say it.
 

Grizabella

For chronic back pain, I'd probably see that in the ten of swords, for one. A heart problem, of course, would probably be most clearly indicated by the three of swords. I'm sure almost all the cards could be attributed to some kind of ailment if enough thought were given to it.

But say you drew the three of swords for someone. Say you told them they should see a doctor because you saw a potential problem with their heart. This would probably alarm them and cause them to start worrying about it, when in reality, their heart could be just fine. There are even those people who would believe you over their doctor----they might go to the doctor and he'd tell them their heart was fine but they'd continue to be distressed, thinking that the cards were seeing something the doctor had missed. Or what if you had read that in the cards for someone who couldn't afford to even see a doctor?

I admire your good intentions and your concern for their health, but there's so much else you can use your cards for that I'd stick with their other uses if I were you. I think most elderly people are well aware of what their physical problems are without cards to tell them anything about it.

To answer your question about if someone came to me with chronic back pain "wouldn't you want to acknowledge that and encourage them to seek a doctor?" my answer is "why?" If they came to me and told me the forthright question for the cards was about their chronic back pain, then I'd tell them that the cards aren't for that purpose and that only their doctor could answer that question. If they came to me and didn't mention chronic back pain, then I'd see no reason to bring it up, cards or not.
 

jmd

lilith says, in the opening post, that she is "interested in learning more about doing readings for people with health issues".

As has already been pointed out, the area is frought with difficulties, not the least of which is a question of timing - that ever elusive aspect in reading!

Having said this, and apart from any local judicial considerations (I have been lead to believe that in the US, readings of this nature can be mis-reconstrude easily as providing medical advice), providing readings on health issues is an area that is under-represented on Aeclectic and generally.

There are various ways and manners in which to provide such readings, and is an area that undoubtedly requires very careful, sensitive and precise communication skills. There is also a difference between making suggestions for further professional medical investigation, and diagnosis.

Even the back-trouble example is one where what may be reflected in the cards and in the context of a reading can be seen as either diagnosis, or, alternatively, an opening for further discussions that makes the querent realise that the normally accepted and unspoken complaint is something that perhaps should be paid attention to, and discussed further with one's chiropractor (or equivalent).

The example given above of someone advocating chanting or shouting for persistent thyroid problems is not something I see as a reflection of a tarot reading (and the example, in any case, suggests that a particular health professional made those suggestions following, undoubtedly, a mis-diagnosis - something ever so common in the world of medicine, and unavoidably so for most practitioners).

In the context of a reading, the throat or thyroid problem may have been seen as just that: a throat or thyroid problem that, and here, for me, is the crux, arises in the context of a reading!

Any problematic situation that specifically arises, especially if then, in conjunction with discussions with the querent, is confirmed to be in some manner problematic, warrants encouragement to seek further medical advice. If the person with the problem described above (thyroid cancer) had come for a reading with some such problems arising, I would suggest that most readers would have taken this as a sign for the querent to seek further medical advice or a second opinion to the current health advice currently followed. Personally, not only do I not see a problem with this, but rather shows one of the appropriate usage of tarot in the context of health.

With lilith's specific situation is another matter that, I would suggest, raises many of our own prejudices and our own sense of wanting to protect others: wanting to do readings with elderly people that focusses on health issues is somewhat similar to wanting to do readings with older teenagers that focusses on love - in each case, many are pre-occupied in some way or other with these respective areas of life, the difference being that the teenager is effectively less susceptible to being charged substantially (from a financial perspective).

Such potential for con-artists does not mean that those with a specific calling to such readings should not provide genuine services - on the contrary, for people with specific interests in providing such readings will in fact mitigate against the 'niche' being filled by the unsavoury type.

As to how to best read, or which deck to use, I would suggest that many decks are fine (and would of course personally recommend something like the Marseille as a good solid stock). The manner by which to deepen one's reading ability in the area of health it also to study that area: health!

Reading through even a digest health manual with one's cards, reflecting on how the symptoms or condition is reflected in the cards; reading and studying anatomy, again reflecting on how this is reflected in various cards; reading through drugs and their uses and side-effects, again reflecting on how these are reflected in the cards; becoming familiar with geriatry in general, and reflecting on various stages and its reflection in the cards; and, of course, becoming increasingly familiar (and accepting) death, the manner of dying, and the various spiritual views, and seeing on how this too is reflected in the cards - all this can lead to an increased specialised understanding that would be relevant to engaging in the specific type of reading suggested by lillith.

This does not, of course, take away from the general sense that it is an area that can be much maligned - and for good reasons. Ideally, to be sure, one's own non-tarot background would be in the health sector, and possibly include medicine or nursing... irrespective of this, the area is as open to legitimate tarot readings as is any other area of life.