Its just that when ive done charts like this in the past regarding his feelings/does he love me questions, ive always used the 7th for him....even on one of my past threads, i even asked whether to use the 5th or 7th (due to the situation), and you even replied to use the 7th. And now im being told to use the 1st for him for feelings questions....so now i never know which one to use.
You can technically use either, I said that in my post above. However, if you are only asking about him and his feelings, or issues that only relate to him, it's not worth turning the chart, which you'd have to do if you assign him the seventh.
I tried to point out that, in this particular horary, you'd get the same answer or near enough whichever you use. He has feelings for you, providing that you accept your role is fifth house - girlfriend, Mistress or lover - not life partner.
From the collection of horaries to date, those feelings aren't strong enough to get him to divorce or leave his wife. They are strong enough to keep your current relationship going, he sees you as his lover, mistress.
Now if you take the first, you have to ask yourself what role does he play. If you alot him the seventh (and therefore, Mercury signifies him), he can only be seen as the named other person, not your husband or long term live in partner.
In that role, he's got feelings for you, with Mercury being in the first house but those feelings are somewhat mixed, as Mercury is also in its Detriment. Other than that Mercury is in no dignity of Jupiter. At the time he has a need for you or you were a high priority of his. That's not proof of love, simply that he has feelings for you.
Sharla said:
He's told me numerous times now that its not just sex between me and him, he even told me again last night that its not just about that.....wish id never done this chart as my heads messed up now againSo he just txts me when he has a bad day at work....oh great.I don't get this bit ?....so if i reversed the houses so me being 1st and him 7th id have an interest in myself ?? Why would i .....i'm totally thrown here Minderwiz, i don't get what your saying.
That he's had a hard day and turns to you (I think I said 'needs you'), shows he has feelings for you and those feelings don't have to be solely a desire for sex. I'm sure that he needs 'you' at times like this - the whole you. And that he turns to you, rather than his wife, also says something. That being said, he's not going to move on anytime soon and you've accepted that situation. And feelings don't necessarily equal love.
Just as he has an interest in himself if he takes the first (Jupiter lies in one of its own dignities, so you would have that same self interest if you swapped and put yourself on the first. you would also have your own self interest as one of the priorities. That's not surprising and it's not a high ranking priority.
For both of you, the other and yourselves are priorities, those aren't necessarily incompatible. The other helps you to realise your own needs. Now that's not to say that he's going to leave her for you, but it does say that he sees you, in part, as a means of satisfying his own needs and you see him, in part, as a means of satisfying your own needs. There's nothing wrong with that at all, as long as you realise it and want it.
Sharla said:
But i haven't actually been thinking that strongly of him....im even talking to another guy at present too, ive been trying to just let him do what he's doing. It was him who randomly come out with all this stuff last night through txt, which in turn made me cast a chart to see if what he was saying was true.
Plus if i am first in my own house and at the same degree as my asc, then what does this mean about myself ?
This is why going on the way he was being in the txts...and also (if he) was 7th, then him being in my 1st house and having the same degree also as asc.....it made much more sense, and i would then have believed what he was saying. Now im just even more confused.
You've certainly been thinking of him strongly enough to cast this chart and indeed several charts in the last week or so. Casting the chart to see what his feelings are is a legitimate step. Either way you have significance but you're not the only thing on his mind or for that matter, he's not the only thing on you're mind.
To me this horary shows he had a strong need for you when he was textiou need ng but that need was as a lover, a romantic need, rather than a long term partner. That doesn't mean he's just using you for sex, but to take his talk of a long term relationship seriously, you need to look for signs of him moving towards a break with his wife. Otherwise all it is, is talk.