Lol @ "phantom collective."
Glad you liked that one
it was good wasn't it.
Hey, that post #30 was pretty good too, especially the last 2 paragraphs.
The great thing here (I reckon) is that SUCH a book / deck /man with all the things he was into and implied and twisted and pomposed and hid and teased and metaphysically ... (you know ... that word you used ) to the ... ooooh 'outside observer' ... there! I said it. ... which is probably a large proportion of tarot readers (unless Waite style GD Christianity Freemasonry has recently suged ahead of general New Age interest
) MOST Tarot readers (including me) find hims somewhat ... 'awkward' ?? AND (back to the 'great thing') his deck has become one of the mainstream most commonly used decks (until pussycats and fairies took over) and familiar images.
So in a way, if one wants to understand one of the most 'common' decks or the book that goes with it one has to read those other books C. mentioned (and probably more).
Gee .... it even reads like a conspiracy.
I'm not going to waste time finding citations,
Of course you wouldn't
that would be ridiculous ; posting a list of comments from other sites here about those terrible people over at Tarot Forum ... yes, that would be a waste of time ... but pretty funny.
but have read on at least 3 diff blogs comments about people on here getting uppity,
Uppity ?
Uppity? whats that? Like 'up ourselves'? Next thing the other sites will gang up on us and want to have an intervention.
and have seen it myself. (Directed at myself and other newbies.)
Heaps of new people here say thanks to AT and its members for the info and support they get ... gosh! I read them everyday, including personal thanks to the posters above ... even sometimes me !!! I know, I know .... but its true!
Maybe it has something to do with the 'type of Newbie' and how they come across ... or should I say ... how they 'look over the fence' (in my case the gate was open, I just walked on through)
It takes two to Tango, as they say
perhaps extensive knowledge makes one insensitive when dispensing wisdom to the unwashed masses?
2 things ... 1.yes. you will be required to wash first, its only polite ; wether it is "Aspurge me with hyssop O Lord and make me clean " or empting your mind to hear Zen discourse , or showering the days grime off before formal Ju-jitsu class ... that's the way it is, it applies everywhere and a hard line is drawn ; if one doesn't like it, well; its 'What too hard Princess?" No one one is forced to attend in the first place.
2. Yes, in another way you are right and it bugged the hell out of me when it happened to me, fortunately for me, my traditions had a fairly good view of that and too an extent came down on those who did it. What do you think ended the GD (and it wasn't just AC ) and why did AC's order after that (AA) mask identity? Yes its in the 'tradition' but some people just have a really bad approach and that can trigger that, at the same time I have seen the same people that got triggered and do it be absolute gems to others.
I was under the impression this was a site for learning,
That's not all it is for ... its for lots of stuff ... I mean I came on as a non member the other day and I did not get the impression that was the main focus of the site. Although it is a big part of it.
not metaphysical masturbation.
Heavens forbid! Mr Waite would not have a bar of it (get it?) In any case the correct section for MM is in the Thoth forum, GD section , under OTO VI* (in some cases apparently it DOESNT take two to tango)
And, no, my search is no less valid. And to say it is just proves my point...
Nah, I don't think anyone's search is less valid ... but then I am a metaphysical liberal