Minderwiz
[/quote]As far as the 4th representing the mother and the 10th house representing the father,
this has been debated by astrologers as long as I can remember. And I have
checked it out thoroughly, to my satisfaction, and I stand on the side
of 4th house = mother and the 10th = father...works for me. You can choose the
reverse if you like. There is no hard fast rule, in my eyes, not when a lot of astrologers
cannot agree 100 % on that information.
My reasons are as follows: (not talking about Caylee's chart right now)
1. The 4th house is normally represented by the Cancer sign
(which, to me, is more motherly than fatherly) (to me)
2. The 10th house is normally represented by the Capricorn sign
(which is more fatherly than motherly) (to me)
or put another way (my simple way):
4th house = Cancer sign = nurturer (as in mother)...in my mind
10th house = Capricorn sign = disciplinarian (as in father)...in my mind
Minderwiz, will you please allow me 'my own choice' in the 4th vs/ 10th parental representative
Ah Now I have a clearer idea of your understanding of the Houses. The debate you refer to actually only went on for a short time and was largely based on misunderstandings. The meanings of the houses were fixed around 200BCE and EVERY Astrologer from then till about 1970 followed those meanings. The 1970s saw thbe rise of the ABC system, Planet= Sign=House - which you so well explain in your post and pesumably is why you think that Pluto signifies death and not Saturn.
Of course if you want to follow this system you are free to do so, but you do need to remember that many of its adherents have now deserted it, as they learn more about the nature of Astrology. I'm sure your investigations looked at the pros and cons as put forward at the time but since then a lot of work has been done on understanding the original nature and function of the Houses. You came into Astrology at a time of some confusion and I can well understand the attraction of the system to a beginner.
You might find:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h4.html
and
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h10.html
helpful. And no, this isn't just one view, even previous adherents like Liz Greene have changed back to the original meanings, once they understood the basis for the meanings.
By all means use the ABC system, in a way it's nice to know that it still has some adherents who have passed beyond the beginners level and if it works for you, why change to the system most other contemporary Astrologers use?