How are the cards numbered?

SaskMick

I'm pretty sure the reader is using the numbers as sort of a shuffle letting you, the person choose the cards by way of number since your are not face to face. I'm curious though what happens to the court cards? You can of course Incorporate numerology into your readings and numbers do play a part but I'm not sure this is what's going on. And yes, the suits too.

He told me that each number represents a particular card.
 

SaskMick

He was into numbers, he told me mine was 6, his was 10.
 

SaskMick

Or, as AnemoneRosie suggests, they aren't numbering the cards at all.

Instead, they thoroughly shuffle the deck of cards and then use your numbers to select, for example, the fifth card from the top, and the twenty-third card, and the thirty-first card, etc.

Using that technique, even if you gave them the same numbers each time, you would get entirely different cards in your reading.

That would work too, it's still being controlled by the subject.
 

SaskMick

Come to think of it that must be what he did, I was baffled by how he would know which way up the cards were supposed to be. Mystery solved.
 

AnemoneRosie

He was into numbers, he told me mine was 6, his was 10.

Did he ask for your birthdate, or for your full name, before giving you this number?
 

Sulis

The Majors generally have 2 commonly used orders:

The Fool - 0 or 22
The Magician 1
The High Priestess 2
The Empress 3
The Emperor 4
The Hierophant 5
The Lovers 6
The Chariot 7
Justice - 8 or 11
The Hermit 9
The Wheel of Fortune 10
Strength 11 or 8
The Hanged Man 12
Death 13
Temperance 14
The Devil 15
The Tower 16
The Star 17
The Moon 18
The Sun 19
Judgment 20
The World 21

Decks based on the Rider-Waite-Smith tarot tend to use Strength at number 8 and Justice at 11. Older decks such as the Tarot de Marseilles, the Crowley Thoth deck and decks based on them use Justice at number 8, Strength at number 11 and leave The Fool unnumbered.
 

SaskMick

Did he ask for your birthdate, or for your full name, before giving you this number?
He knew my birth date and full name long before he told me my number.
 

uraszz

If it were me I would number the cards like this:

Fool - 0

Magician - 1

High-Priestess - 2

Empress - 3

Emperor - 4

Hierophant - 5

Lovers - 6

Chariot - 7

Justice - 8

Hermit - 9

Wheel of Fortune - 10

Strength - 11

Hanged Man - 12

Death - 13

Temperance - 14

Devil - 15

Tower - 16

Star - 17

Moon - 18

Sun - 19

Judgement - 20

World - 21

Ace of Wands - 22

Two of Wands - 23

Three of Wands - 24

Four of Wands - 25

Five of Wands - 26

Six of Wands - 27

Seven of Wands - 28

Eight of Wands - 29

Nine of Wands - 30

Ten of Wands - 31

Page of Wands - 32

Knight of Wands - 33

Queen of Wands - 34

King of Wands - 35

Ace of Swords - 36

Two of Swords - 37

Three of Swords - 38

Four of Swords - 39

Five of Swords - 40

Six of Swords - 41

Seven of Swords - 42

Eight of Swords - 43

Nine of Swords - 44

Ten of Swords - 45

Page of Swords - 46

Knight of Swords - 47

Queen of Swords - 48

King of Swords - 49

Ace of Cups - 50

Two of Cups - 51

Three of Cups - 52

Four of Cups - 53

Five of Cups - 54

Six of Cups - 55

Seven of Cups - 56

Eight of Cups - 57

Nine of Cups - 58

Ten of Cups - 59

Page of Cups - 60

Knight of Cups - 61

Queen of Cups - 62

King of Cups - 63

Ace of Coins - 64

Two of Coins - 65

Three of Coins - 66

Four of Coins - 67

Five of Coins - 68

Six of Coins - 69

Seven of Coins - 70

Eight of Coins - 71

Nine of Coins - 72

Ten of Coins - 73

Page of Coins - 74

Knight of Coins - 75

Queen of Coins - 76

King of Coins - 77

The Fool is Zero so that's why it stops at 77 and not 78

As many people have said the number value of Strength and Justice may change according to the system being used. I prefer the traditional Marseille numbering because of numerological correspondences

I hope this helps you out

-uraszz
 

Babalon Jones

my preference is always that the first card in the deck always be either the Fool or the Ace of Wands, and the last card either be the Universe or the Princess of Disks. So I order the courts Knight/King, then Queen, the Prince, then Princess/Page. YHVH order. That way from the Princess proceeds the Ace of the next suit.
 

ravenest

For a numerical code I would use

Fool - 1 through the numbers on the majors ( and in m deck, with THAT order ) + 1

makes A of W - 23 then the wand courts according to their order for THAT deck ( mine Knight, Queen, Prince , Princess .

Then through the order cups, swords discs , to

princess of Discs - 78 .