Lurianic paths: Qoph & Heth

Fulgour

Sorry for the rookie question but can anyone
please explain why Qoph & Heth are positioned
on the Lurianic tree in the pathways shown:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Kabbalah/Ari-tree.gif

I have to admit, right now I would see them
switched to be more logical in the groups...
 

Fulgour

I notice that on the image in the above link
Teth & Samekh are also switched from the
two reference sources I was consulting...

To help with references, here are alphabets
from the Ancient Scripts website, below as
attachements & a list of correspondences
for the Letters-Months-Signs:

5th Letter HE Aries (1st House)
6th Letter WAW Taurus (2nd House)
7th Letter ZAYIN Gemini (3rd House)

8th Letter HETH Cancer (4th House)
9th Letter TETH Leo (5th House)
10th Letter YOD Virgo (6th House)

12th Letter LAMEDH Libra (7th House)
14th Letter NUN Scorpio (8th House)
15th Letter SAMEKH Sagittarius (9th House)

16th Letter AYIN Capricorn (10th House)
18th Letter TSADE Aquarius (11th House)
19th Letter QOPH Pisces (12th House)
 

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Fulgour

For those who, like myself, are charmed by
the links between Phoenician and Hebrew,
here are two side-by-side views:
 

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Fulgour

My question then, stems from noticing that
there are almost progressive groups of four
Letter-Sign pathways on the Lurianic tree...

Topmost:
5th Letter HE Aries (1st House)
6th Letter WAW Taurus (2nd House)
7th Letter ZAYIN Gemini (3rd House)
19th Letter QOPH Pisces (12th House)

Midway:
8th Letter HETH Cancer (4th House)
15th Letter SAMEKH Sagittarius (9th House)
16th Letter AYIN Capricorn (10th House)
18th Letter TSADE Aquarius (11th House)

Lower:
9th Letter TETH Leo (5th House)
10th Letter YOD Virgo (6th House)
12th Letter LAMEDH Libra (7th House)
14th Letter NUN Scorpio (8th House)

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But perhaps there was never agreement?
 

Fulgour

This is a sketch that I was making as an aid
to my reading, following the Lurianic paths...
 

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jmd

Thank you Fulgour - it has quite a nice zodiacal-elemental and planetary balance to it.

That is the wonderful aspect about the various attributions: each has its aspect that appears justifiable.

Unlike others, however, I prefer not to ask: does it work if you work with this (as all systems will 'work'); but rather, do the attributions reflect essential characteristics implied or claimed.
 

Fulgour

Thanks :) jmd! Trying to find specifics on the Luriac
tree and pathways is difficult, since each sourse is
already claiming to represent the 'official' version...

Myself I prefer a Circular Tree, as seen in my graph:
 

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venicebard

Fulgour said:
Sorry for the rookie question but can anyone
please explain why Qoph & Heth are positioned
on the Lurianic tree in the pathways shown:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Kabbalah/Ari-tree.gif

I have to admit, right now I would see them
switched to be more logical in the groups...
It is well to be studying the Ari’s arrangement of paths. His is the only one I am aware of that actually places voiced and unvoiced equivalents (doubles) directly opposite one another on the Tree. Don’t have my Kaplan SY with me to check if it agrees concerning the simples. The mothers are given standard placement, of course, although how alef-as-horizontal bridges high and low thereby is subtle, since Mercy and Justice are as two hands, side by side. Yet up-head and down-loins do evoke them in that order when seen as using one's head versus lust.

Concerning the simples, by the logic of from the littlest first followed by to the littlest first, the order given in your link is:

heh-vav-zayin (does this sound familiar?),
teyt-qof-ayin,
cheyt-tzaddi-yod,
samekh-nun-lamedh.

The first three are the first three signs, by rearranged (alef-bet) order, while the last three, taken according to bardic order – meaning the Qabbalist-restored pre-Semitic/Hamitic order, before the vowels the Irish preserved were variously suppressed (in early Tifinag and ogam consaine) or consonantized (in Egyptian, later Tifinag, Libyan, and Semitic) – are the last three of the middot, the 13 divine attributes, but in reverse, being the last two signs plus return to the first or aries, but in the order aries-pisces-aquarius. These three are the ones that are not yet become Sefirot, because a self or capricorn – the direction in, straight back towards self from other when facing other – has only progressed as far as tenth, the Shekhinah in man.

In case the two remaining groups are mixed sets, their respective positions (B = bardic, H = Habiru) are:

teyt (B-libra, H-leo), qof (B-virgo, H-pisces), ayin (B-leo, H-capricorn), and

cheyt (B-gemini, H-cancer), tzaddi (B-taurus, H-aquarius), yod (B-capricorn, H-virgo).

It can be seen from this that by position-in-series, the first two Bs and third H are related via triad. Interestingly, the H associated with the former are in each case consecutive signs, whereas the B associated with the latter simply follow ayin to tenth sign capricorn or self-knowledge, yod’s proper sign (echoed in its being Hebrew 10).

Don’t know exactly what to make of all this except to see, in the first and last sets of three at any rate, yet further indication the Ari knew more than he let on.

Fulgour said:
I notice that on the image in the above link
Teth & Samekh are also switched from the
two reference sources I was consulting...
Teyt-samekh are libra-aries, the central staff. Such reversal of polarity is the main device in the encoding of man’s Fall in bardic numbering and originates in duality’s (2’s) departure from Unity (1): bardic 2 (E, heh) switches about from second sign to eighth, the 30-degree arc of arrival there being attached to libra, the opposite of Unity or aries (being a weighing of 2 things, which man’s psyche places opposite rather than within Unity). It is in acknowledgement that this has happened that heh is added to Abram to make Abraham, methinks.

[Edited to add:] What said reversal might mean in the current context I cannot say, except to point out that in Hebrew teyt-samekh are the outer and inner ends of the fire triad's base, so the turn-about is precisely 90 degrees, in imitation of a here horizontal alef 'bridging' high and low.
 

venicebard

Fulgour said:
Myself I prefer a Circular Tree, as seen in my graph:
No, a circular Tree would be (is):

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . (12)

. . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (11)

. . .
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10
. . .

. . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9

. . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7

(after adjustment for possible distortion in display)
 

Fulgour

Qoph & Heth

Fulgour said:
Sorry for the rookie question but can anyone
please explain why Qoph & Heth are positioned
on the Lurianic tree in the pathways...
...as they appear in books, etc?