Rosanne
For some years I have been placing images attached to Historical Tarot under headings, and except for what I call abberrations like the Mitelli (Greek Legend), the Sola Busca (Roman Soldiers and the like) I have 47 Cards in 6 Groups.
Due to several articles in wonderful sites of late, I thought I would ask if I need a further file heading.
Roman Gods and Goddesses. 12 Cards/6 pairs
Juno - Marriage Peacock
Jupiter- Eagle Sky and Air
Venus- Beauty Dove
Apollo- Poetry Music Sun Tripod
Diana -Hunting+ Dog Moon
Mars - War +Wolf
Minerva - Wisdom + Owl
Vulcan- Blacksmith Pileus (Black cap)
Ceres- Basket Harvest Nature
Mercury- Messenger Winged (shoes, hat, tortoise)
Vesta- Hearth Lamp
Neptune - Sea, Trident Dolphin Serpent
Planets 7
Sun, Mercury, Venus, Moon, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter
Zodiac 12
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces
Elements 4
Air, Fire, Water, Earth
Virtues 7
Faith, Hope, Charity (theological) Prudence, Temperance, Justice, Strength/Force (Cardinal)
Christian Concepts of Fame and Fortune 5 Cards
Time, Fortune, Vanitas , Judgement, Fame
Time: We simultaneously grasp the past in memory, the present by attention, and the future by expectation.(Saint Augustine)
Fortune: Christianity transformed Fortune’s character. The ancient Romans Fortuna had been fickle, that is, open to appeal, but the Christian concept made her unyielding to any thing other than Virtue, struggling against capricious Fortuna. So no matter what happened as long as you were Virtuous you could withstand Fortuna.
Vanitas: meaninglessness of earthly life and the transient nature of all earthly goods and pursuits.
Judgment: .
From Nicene Creed: “We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.”
…When time is swept away by death the game ends and no one has an advantage. No one is King or Knight or Judge or Lord: everyone is equal in the bag of the Earth.
Meister Ingold 1423(Speaking of the game of Chess)
Fame: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dresden_Fama_(2005).jpg
Christianity in the sense of ‘Good Tidings’ - (Rumour of Good things to come)
It seems to me that from this pool of cards came Tarot. (It looks somewhat like a Minchiate deck) Some cards that are called something else appeared changed. In the PMB Visconti we have Star, Moon, Sun, that in the Tdm cards -look like the Zodiac signs of Aquarius,Cancer and Gemini. In early decks Strength looks like a combination of Leo and Virgo.(Cary Yale)
Some Roman Gods and Goddesses are names of Planets. For example Jupiter, Venus, Mars, Mercury.
In some decks the Elements seem to have another name- like The Ship for Water and The Tower for Fire. Sometimes the Fool looks like Air. The World card definitly depicts Earth.
So suit cards of 56 usual for playing cards except for the queens.
47 Cards that could be used for the 22.
I think there is no reason to think there is a logical sequence.
I had considered the Constellations- Like Orion, but I could not find others that were in the so called "usual" groupings.
From these groups I can make up the Noblet Tdm.
It would seem that this idea of a pool of cards, drawn from, in whatever your regional fancy was, is quite a logical idea. Certainly save on Packaging Lol.I am not sure how for printing this would be arranged. Unless the doubling up of images, was made single- Like the Gods that had names of Planets removed or vice versa. Saturn as Death- one or other removed?? Things like that.
Any other thoughts???
~Rosanne
Due to several articles in wonderful sites of late, I thought I would ask if I need a further file heading.
Roman Gods and Goddesses. 12 Cards/6 pairs
Juno - Marriage Peacock
Jupiter- Eagle Sky and Air
Venus- Beauty Dove
Apollo- Poetry Music Sun Tripod
Diana -Hunting+ Dog Moon
Mars - War +Wolf
Minerva - Wisdom + Owl
Vulcan- Blacksmith Pileus (Black cap)
Ceres- Basket Harvest Nature
Mercury- Messenger Winged (shoes, hat, tortoise)
Vesta- Hearth Lamp
Neptune - Sea, Trident Dolphin Serpent
Planets 7
Sun, Mercury, Venus, Moon, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter
Zodiac 12
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces
Elements 4
Air, Fire, Water, Earth
Virtues 7
Faith, Hope, Charity (theological) Prudence, Temperance, Justice, Strength/Force (Cardinal)
Christian Concepts of Fame and Fortune 5 Cards
Time, Fortune, Vanitas , Judgement, Fame
Time: We simultaneously grasp the past in memory, the present by attention, and the future by expectation.(Saint Augustine)
Fortune: Christianity transformed Fortune’s character. The ancient Romans Fortuna had been fickle, that is, open to appeal, but the Christian concept made her unyielding to any thing other than Virtue, struggling against capricious Fortuna. So no matter what happened as long as you were Virtuous you could withstand Fortuna.
Vanitas: meaninglessness of earthly life and the transient nature of all earthly goods and pursuits.
Judgment: .
From Nicene Creed: “We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.”
…When time is swept away by death the game ends and no one has an advantage. No one is King or Knight or Judge or Lord: everyone is equal in the bag of the Earth.
Meister Ingold 1423(Speaking of the game of Chess)
Fame: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dresden_Fama_(2005).jpg
Christianity in the sense of ‘Good Tidings’ - (Rumour of Good things to come)
It seems to me that from this pool of cards came Tarot. (It looks somewhat like a Minchiate deck) Some cards that are called something else appeared changed. In the PMB Visconti we have Star, Moon, Sun, that in the Tdm cards -look like the Zodiac signs of Aquarius,Cancer and Gemini. In early decks Strength looks like a combination of Leo and Virgo.(Cary Yale)
Some Roman Gods and Goddesses are names of Planets. For example Jupiter, Venus, Mars, Mercury.
In some decks the Elements seem to have another name- like The Ship for Water and The Tower for Fire. Sometimes the Fool looks like Air. The World card definitly depicts Earth.
So suit cards of 56 usual for playing cards except for the queens.
47 Cards that could be used for the 22.
I think there is no reason to think there is a logical sequence.
I had considered the Constellations- Like Orion, but I could not find others that were in the so called "usual" groupings.
From these groups I can make up the Noblet Tdm.
It would seem that this idea of a pool of cards, drawn from, in whatever your regional fancy was, is quite a logical idea. Certainly save on Packaging Lol.I am not sure how for printing this would be arranged. Unless the doubling up of images, was made single- Like the Gods that had names of Planets removed or vice versa. Saturn as Death- one or other removed?? Things like that.
Any other thoughts???
~Rosanne