Cards as theatrical settings

Zephyros

There was a post not ling ago where somebody said that some of the cards "take place" on a stage. Now, I've looked through the cards, but I couldn't find the diagonal lines that were spoken of. Which cards are they? And what do you think it means that they take place on a stage?
 

Cerulean

Two linked threads

1. Pandora's thread:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31728

I do not know what Pandora was exploring in detail. You can
add comment to her thread so Pandora can clarify for you if the above thread information seems unclear.

I may have also added to the confusion by rambling on about Japonese landscape/ukiyo-e/period nostalgia---I may have commented elsewhere that the storytelling element in the PCS cards reminded me of Asian scrollwork or other pictorial storytelling where key elements of 'scenes' are not real, more like allegorical 'friezes' or 'staged settings'. I think that is what I meant in my commentary of Pandora's thread and the thread below.

People also provided links to an older thread below about RWS as stage settings.

2*. My suggestions and associations are explained in the old thread here--I did not talk about lines on the cards, I don't think. That was in Pandora's thread, from what I see.

I actually was writing in general about associations with theatrical stage settings and PCS associations:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11740

Best wishes,

Cerulean

2*edited to make this a number "2" instead of my original typo.
 

Lee

I think the lines closrapexa refers to are actually horizontal ines toward the bottom of the image, which suggest the bottom of a stage backdrop. So, in other words, the characters are seen as standing on a stage, and the background behind them would be a stage flat. This can be seen on several of the cards. Stuart Kaplan in his Encyclopedia mentions this, and it makes sense given Pamela Colman Smith's background as a stage designer.

-- Lee
 

Zephyros

Lee, that was exactly what I was referring to! Thanks!

But I looked and couldn't find any of those cards. Which ones are they?
 

Lee

Hi closrapexa, I went through the deck and found these:

Pentacles:
2
4
6

Wands:
4
9
10

Swords:
2
5
7

Cups:
2
10
Page

Notice that on most of these, the line towards the bottom is a double line, which makes the background look even more like a painted backdrop.

-- Lee
 

Fulgour

PAM as DIRECTOR

The position of theatre director came as an innovation
beginning in the late 1800s with widespread application
only being the rule by the early part of the 20th century.

Prior to that, it seems that the actors or playwrights were
responsible for presenting their shows as they felt it best.

Pam was able to draw on her very significant theatrical
experiences in creating the bold images for her pictures.


from: SHAKESPEARE MARIONETTE COMPANY

The visual arts have a long relationship with the theatre
and dramatic text. While integral to the making of theatrical
productions via scenery and props, visual arts have grown
two separate traditions which are ‘about’ drama.

Painters and sculptors have worked both as ‘director’
interpreters of play text creating as it were their own
play and they have worked ‘from life drawing from
actual productions.

The two could be called:
Imaginative-interpretive Painting
and
Performance Painting
 

Fulgour

Scenery and Art

I wonder if standardised production materials
and the 'stock' colours also were important?