dadsnook2000
Oh, this is a tough one. Sun, the core of our solar system, our charts, our environments sustainability, a most important component of very many things in our life -- the Sun is amost the opposite of much that Saturn represents. Saturn, the furthest out of the ancient-planets, the limits of the solar system as seen by most of earth's inhabitants over the aeons, Father Time, the great teacher, the dour master, the taskmaster -- Saturn has a bad reputation for many people. So, just how do we go about bring sense to Sun in one chart aspecting Saturn in another chart, especially when these two people may be quite close in some way?
SUN conjunct SATURN:
In prior Sun-to-planet aspect reviews in this series of threads, the conjunction was almost always a positive one or largely a positive one. Let's look again at what Sun represents: Power, vitality, ego, will, warmth, energy. Saturn is seen as representing: Limits, responsibility, security, caution. teaching hard lessons. Together, we can get all kinds of combinations forthis pairing. Sun will encourage and push Saturn to apply rules and structures in a positive way. Saturn will, in turn, tend to slow down the Sun, bring a more conservative view to Sun's optimism. Saturn will lend practicality and planning to Sun's grand view and sense of identity. In other words, these two can, CAN, work well as a team under the right conditions.
Can Sun always put up with Saturn's slowness and caution? Cooperation between these two will probably develop only after some time has gone by. Is there time in a given relationship? Will "time" be transplanted with "difference in age" suggesting that a teacher-student, superior-inferior relationship has to be in place?! Saturn will impose structure, teach lessons, take its time. Sun will vitalize, give identity to the relationship. What "words of description" will fit the best will depend upon two things -- the nature of the relationship and the charts other participating aspects to either/both of these astrological bodies. In other words, this one pair where we have to practice good and highly personal astrology in order to put the right words and understanding in place. No easy answers here.
Equal Partners: After time has passed, this bond is substantial. A sense of being tied together is likely to persist. Saturn will benefit most in this form of relationship. Sun will not like to feel hemmed in, so Saturn will need to cover itself with a sense of quiet support and guidance.
Marriage Partners: A difference in ages or maturity is often the case. Sun will give in more, Saturn will get more -- a turn from the Sun-Jupiter situation.
Parent-Child Relationships: A Saturn parent will be a real dampener upon a Sun child, breeding resentment if not careful, extremely careful. The child can become quiet, anxious, perhaps afraid to express itself. A Sun parent might expect too much, too soon from a Saturn child, leading to obvious problems for the child such as low self-esteem. Poor communication can be the first of many problems.
SUN opposite SATURN:
With this aspect we can expect there to be less loyalty, less give-and-take, less cooperation and ability to work together well as a team. Sun will find this aspect more wearing than will Saturn, while Saturn will be more focused on requiring some due diligence and adherance to sturcture. Saturn demands a focus and a plan, Sun demands some freedom and movement. All in all, this is a bit uncomfortable in most cases. So, place these statements on top of the conjunction statements.
SUN square SATURN:
The Suns power, Saturns caution and security; what conflicts are inherent in this pattern? Almost everything. Saturn just pressures the Sun person in almost every case. This is not an aspect within a relationship in which two people should engage in if they knew the problems ahead of time. Its is one of those aspectual pairings were both individuals should walk away from if they could -- this is something that astrologers would almost never say, yet in this case it is probably something that should be considered. Now that I've put my foot in my mouth, let's move on.
SUN trine or sextile SATURN:
This aspect can suggest a productive balance between esteem, ambition, planning. Things can almost always be worked out, one stepping on the feet of the other will be avoided or compensated for. This is a "teamwork" aspect. As such this aspect is good for business relationships and marriages wherein both partners are teamed up in a joint project or supporting fields.
SUMMARY:
All in all, these aspects of Sun to Saturn between partners can be the stuff that legends are made of. Those on the list who have these two in some form of aspect will have interesting stories to share, I'm sure. Dave.
SUN conjunct SATURN:
In prior Sun-to-planet aspect reviews in this series of threads, the conjunction was almost always a positive one or largely a positive one. Let's look again at what Sun represents: Power, vitality, ego, will, warmth, energy. Saturn is seen as representing: Limits, responsibility, security, caution. teaching hard lessons. Together, we can get all kinds of combinations forthis pairing. Sun will encourage and push Saturn to apply rules and structures in a positive way. Saturn will, in turn, tend to slow down the Sun, bring a more conservative view to Sun's optimism. Saturn will lend practicality and planning to Sun's grand view and sense of identity. In other words, these two can, CAN, work well as a team under the right conditions.
Can Sun always put up with Saturn's slowness and caution? Cooperation between these two will probably develop only after some time has gone by. Is there time in a given relationship? Will "time" be transplanted with "difference in age" suggesting that a teacher-student, superior-inferior relationship has to be in place?! Saturn will impose structure, teach lessons, take its time. Sun will vitalize, give identity to the relationship. What "words of description" will fit the best will depend upon two things -- the nature of the relationship and the charts other participating aspects to either/both of these astrological bodies. In other words, this one pair where we have to practice good and highly personal astrology in order to put the right words and understanding in place. No easy answers here.
Equal Partners: After time has passed, this bond is substantial. A sense of being tied together is likely to persist. Saturn will benefit most in this form of relationship. Sun will not like to feel hemmed in, so Saturn will need to cover itself with a sense of quiet support and guidance.
Marriage Partners: A difference in ages or maturity is often the case. Sun will give in more, Saturn will get more -- a turn from the Sun-Jupiter situation.
Parent-Child Relationships: A Saturn parent will be a real dampener upon a Sun child, breeding resentment if not careful, extremely careful. The child can become quiet, anxious, perhaps afraid to express itself. A Sun parent might expect too much, too soon from a Saturn child, leading to obvious problems for the child such as low self-esteem. Poor communication can be the first of many problems.
SUN opposite SATURN:
With this aspect we can expect there to be less loyalty, less give-and-take, less cooperation and ability to work together well as a team. Sun will find this aspect more wearing than will Saturn, while Saturn will be more focused on requiring some due diligence and adherance to sturcture. Saturn demands a focus and a plan, Sun demands some freedom and movement. All in all, this is a bit uncomfortable in most cases. So, place these statements on top of the conjunction statements.
SUN square SATURN:
The Suns power, Saturns caution and security; what conflicts are inherent in this pattern? Almost everything. Saturn just pressures the Sun person in almost every case. This is not an aspect within a relationship in which two people should engage in if they knew the problems ahead of time. Its is one of those aspectual pairings were both individuals should walk away from if they could -- this is something that astrologers would almost never say, yet in this case it is probably something that should be considered. Now that I've put my foot in my mouth, let's move on.
SUN trine or sextile SATURN:
This aspect can suggest a productive balance between esteem, ambition, planning. Things can almost always be worked out, one stepping on the feet of the other will be avoided or compensated for. This is a "teamwork" aspect. As such this aspect is good for business relationships and marriages wherein both partners are teamed up in a joint project or supporting fields.
SUMMARY:
All in all, these aspects of Sun to Saturn between partners can be the stuff that legends are made of. Those on the list who have these two in some form of aspect will have interesting stories to share, I'm sure. Dave.