RavenDarkWind
The Book of Thoth mentioned something about how straight lines were just infinite parabolas, didn't it?
yeah ... that was me trying to be brief ... I should have said ; what do you make in the different depictions of the form of the stars, , the one in Venus having every third point joined instead of every second?
What do you make of the variations in depictions of the star ( the 'Babalon type' ones, and the 'Therion type' one) in the Celestial Sphere ?
Dwtw
I think the two stars/septagrams are two different ways of marking the polar axis. IMO, the large globe on the Star card is the Earth. This identification provides the card with a new name, as per Liber AL I:57.
The Star of trump XVII is, in one sense, the pole star, the fixed axis of the heavens. But when Hipparchus discovered the precession of the Equinoxes, that meant that the pole star was not fixed. In fact there is no pole star. The pole is the axis of the Earth itself.
So the name of the card is changed from the Star to the Earth.
This makes the three bottom paths on the Tree of Return attributed to the cards of The Moon, the Sun, and the Earth.
It is not the celestial globes that rotate around the Earth; it is the Earth that spins through the heavens. The axle of this wheel, the Hadit point, is the center of the Earth, and the North and South Poles are the poles of spin.
hang on ... Once the celestial globe is not considered we are not in a geo centric view. Once we see the earth 'spinning through the heavens' there is no celestial globe. The axle of any wheel based on this is the earths axis not centre. An axle is a line not a point. Unless I am totally missing something ?
I still dont get your point... Unless you are talking about the axial tilt in relation to the plane of the solar system and its motion that makes precession ... in that case, over a loooong period, where it can be seen that each pole (when extended to the celestial sphere) makes an opposite moving circle ... THEN one could say the centre of the axis is stable and set at a central pivot point in relation to other points on the axle (that are slowly rotating in a circle ) ... Is that what you mean ?
If your idea is " the pole of spin is within the Earth, not without." ... well, of course; that's basic science we learn at primary school. Like we all know as well that the earth spins and not the stars around us.
But the whole concept of the celestial globe is a based on the geocentric view, the CP is an extension of that by imagining the earths axis extends into space and locating that in the celestial map. Once you step off earth and view from the outside - celestial poles and spheres dissolve (except in relation to your new point of view and rotation).
I cant see how adopting a geocentric view ( that allowed you to see and understand the idea of a celestial Sphere) now has this Cosmo-centric (or 'scientific' ) view that, really, the earth is rotating and not the cosmos (which we all know) so therefore the pole of the imagined Celestial Sphere is in the earth .... and by some extension of that, that makes the Pole Star (which you say isnt really the pole star -due to its circularly rotating nature over time of the CP ) a point of the Earth's axis in space, and since it is the earths axis the star is really the Earth.
Sorry .... It just dont add up ... you seem to be multiplying apples by oranges . To me anyway.
If that's the simplest solution where does that leave the cards that Crowley did rename?Any name change whatsoever would be the simplest solution to the injunction that 'tzaddi is not The Star'.
If that's the simplest solution where does that leave the cards that Crowley did rename?