magpie9
MeeWah said:Rather than quote Fulgour again, I have to state I feel the same.
The Underworld is the tempering card or the great leveler--where every man regardless of his station in life must pass through. One perforce enters this realm with nothing of the earthly ties or possessions; thus figuratively with nothing to hold one back from this passage. Yet this is the beginning of the hardest part of the soul journey as this is the underworld realm of self. After all is said & done, one must meet one's shadow self, replete with all the repressed fears & issues buried deep in the subconscious.
I understand and agree with what you are saying, and I don't see the Underworld as being a substitute for Temperance, (usually #14). Card #16, Initiation, is ment (according to the book) to replace Temperence. That does pretty much make sense to me.
My question is why can't you and Fulgoar and other people who find the numerology very meaningfull and important just remove the number on the bottom of the card in your deck, and put in the number that you feel is correct? That way the numbering would be correct and would not be "off-putting" for you.
I don't mean to be dense, or insensitive, but I really don't understand why either of you don't do that. Can either of you explain, please?
I'm sure you both have realized by now that I can't count to 20 with my shoes on, let alone understand or do numerology, but I bet I'm representitive of many others following this thread...... some of whoem are too shy to ask the really dumb questions