Huck
Framed Story: The Sindibad Tarocchi story
Well,
.. it isn't a Tarocchi story, cause it existed, when playing cards were not known in Europe ...
nonetheless, it uses a sort of Tarocchi scheme: 21 elements plus an additional 22th; the 21 elements sorted in 7x3-scheme according the days of a week.
So, it's interesting enough to be known ...
Well, actually it's rather well known, it's the "7 sages of Rome" story ...
An emperor sends his son to the 7 teachers for education (well, the seven artes liberalis) and it takes 7 years till he comes back. Everybody has hoped, that he had learned something, but, when he comes ... nothing. This son even can't speak. What a disappointment, this wasn't expected.
The new wife of the king, with the promise that she might solve the problem, arranges to be alone with the son. Then, instead any attempt to help him, she tries to seduce him. But the young guy might have given the impression, that he was stupid, but he wasn't and he escaped this problem. Now the Queen made a big lamento, that this guy had attempted to rape her and urges the king to kill this son, who would attempt to steal his throne. But then the first wise man appears (as representative of the artes) and gives a story as an argument, why the king shouldn't do it today. And at the next day the Queen repeats with another story her urge for the killing sentence. And then the next wise man appears and tells, why the king shouldn't do it today. And this repeats, after each of the 7 wise men has told a story against one of the 7 accusation stories of the queen. 14 stories are then ready and then at the 8th day the boy starts to talk and this becomes the 15th story and after this everything is okay ...
Well, the Western version knew only 15 stories, but the Eastern version, more talkative, has two stories for each wise men and then you have 15 + 7 = 22 stories, and then ... then the story has the Tarocchi scheme.
One of the opinions to the origin of the story thinks, that it was made by Sindibad, a wise man c. 100 BC in India.
In the next passage the difference between Eastern and Western version is told:
And some ideas about Sindibad and the king:
And the date of the oldest text:
It's far spread and there different versions ...
All texts from here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=OnRKc1NC8qMC
There's a lot of material to this object in this web, even a "Society of the Seven Sages" ...
http://myweb.dal.ca/hrunte/seven_sages.html
This is a nice variant (full text):
http://www.dantesheart.com/Issue2/SevenSagesContents.html
The wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Wise_Masters
What I didn't found, was a translated version of one of the Eastern variants with 22 stories. Then the wise men should be "viziers".
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This Sindibad is NOT Sindibad, the sailor ...
.. and Sindibad the sailor isn't Sindibad the porter, but Sindibad the sailor tells Sindibad the porter his stories and these stories are of the quality, that one shouldn't believe everything.
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Patriach Joseph in the bible (maybe 900 BC):
The wife of Potiphar attempts to seduce him. Joseph goes too prison.
Then Joseph interprets the 7 good years and the 7 bad years.
Theseus legend (at least 500 BC):
Theseus comes to his father after grown up at a foreign court. The new wife of his father, Medea, attempts to poison him.
Athen has to pay tribute to Creta. Theseus as one of 7 young men and 7 girls travels to Creta.
Phaedra, the wife of Theseus, accuses Hippolytus, his son (after Hippolytus refused her). Theseus curses his son, who dies in a chariot accident.
I saw voices with the opinion, that the story typus is hellenistic and already from 500 BC.
Well,
.. it isn't a Tarocchi story, cause it existed, when playing cards were not known in Europe ...
nonetheless, it uses a sort of Tarocchi scheme: 21 elements plus an additional 22th; the 21 elements sorted in 7x3-scheme according the days of a week.
So, it's interesting enough to be known ...
Well, actually it's rather well known, it's the "7 sages of Rome" story ...
An emperor sends his son to the 7 teachers for education (well, the seven artes liberalis) and it takes 7 years till he comes back. Everybody has hoped, that he had learned something, but, when he comes ... nothing. This son even can't speak. What a disappointment, this wasn't expected.
The new wife of the king, with the promise that she might solve the problem, arranges to be alone with the son. Then, instead any attempt to help him, she tries to seduce him. But the young guy might have given the impression, that he was stupid, but he wasn't and he escaped this problem. Now the Queen made a big lamento, that this guy had attempted to rape her and urges the king to kill this son, who would attempt to steal his throne. But then the first wise man appears (as representative of the artes) and gives a story as an argument, why the king shouldn't do it today. And at the next day the Queen repeats with another story her urge for the killing sentence. And then the next wise man appears and tells, why the king shouldn't do it today. And this repeats, after each of the 7 wise men has told a story against one of the 7 accusation stories of the queen. 14 stories are then ready and then at the 8th day the boy starts to talk and this becomes the 15th story and after this everything is okay ...
Well, the Western version knew only 15 stories, but the Eastern version, more talkative, has two stories for each wise men and then you have 15 + 7 = 22 stories, and then ... then the story has the Tarocchi scheme.
One of the opinions to the origin of the story thinks, that it was made by Sindibad, a wise man c. 100 BC in India.
In the next passage the difference between Eastern and Western version is told:
And some ideas about Sindibad and the king:
And the date of the oldest text:
It's far spread and there different versions ...
All texts from here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=OnRKc1NC8qMC
There's a lot of material to this object in this web, even a "Society of the Seven Sages" ...
http://myweb.dal.ca/hrunte/seven_sages.html
This is a nice variant (full text):
http://www.dantesheart.com/Issue2/SevenSagesContents.html
The wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Wise_Masters
What I didn't found, was a translated version of one of the Eastern variants with 22 stories. Then the wise men should be "viziers".
***********
This Sindibad is NOT Sindibad, the sailor ...
.. and Sindibad the sailor isn't Sindibad the porter, but Sindibad the sailor tells Sindibad the porter his stories and these stories are of the quality, that one shouldn't believe everything.
***********
Patriach Joseph in the bible (maybe 900 BC):
The wife of Potiphar attempts to seduce him. Joseph goes too prison.
Then Joseph interprets the 7 good years and the 7 bad years.
Theseus legend (at least 500 BC):
Theseus comes to his father after grown up at a foreign court. The new wife of his father, Medea, attempts to poison him.
Athen has to pay tribute to Creta. Theseus as one of 7 young men and 7 girls travels to Creta.
Phaedra, the wife of Theseus, accuses Hippolytus, his son (after Hippolytus refused her). Theseus curses his son, who dies in a chariot accident.
I saw voices with the opinion, that the story typus is hellenistic and already from 500 BC.