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Is it just me or are the Zodiac in the wrong order on this card? It appears the signs next to the Twins are switched...
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Perhaps it's part of the 'double loop' in the zodiac
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Is it just me or are the Zodiac in the wrong order on this card? It appears the signs next to the Twins are switched...
It looks right to me. I'm used to seeing the spring and summer signs on the top so it's different seeing them on the bottom, but they seem to be in the right order.

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Hmm... Its just me then, I guess.
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Looks right to me.

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That particular representation of the zodiac may be a graphic way of showing the Sun in the south. Crowley comments on this in MTP.
I'm not going to quote because that particular one makes some hysterical people, ignorant of the symbolism, go crazy.
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That particular representation of the zodiac may be a graphic way of showing the Sun in the south. Crowley comments on this in MTP.
I'm not going to quote because that particular one makes some hysterical people, ignorant of the symbolism, go crazy.
Now you're making me curious.
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In The Secret Teachings of All Ages, Manly Hall says something that has never made much sense to me, but looking at Crowley's Sun card it seems a little clearer:

"The important point to be remembered is that when the sun was said to be in a certain sign of the zodiac, the ancients really meant that the sun occupied the opposite sign and cast its long ray into the house in which they enthroned it. Therefore, when it is said that the sun is in Taurus, it is means (astronomically) that the sun is in the sign opposite to Taurus, which is Scorpio."

Since Hall's book was first published in 1928, Crowley and Harris would have certainly had access to it long before their Tarot was made. They would have probably also been aware of some of the same sources Hall used.
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Crowley was well aware of the significance of the opposite signs. After all it forms part of the theory of Aeonics.

When you consider what Crowley says about the Sun in Capricorn/South in MTP it becomes blindingly obvious that there is a very close connection with the whole Cancer / Cheth / 418 / Knowledge & Conversation chain of correspndences.
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Manly Hall ... EHHH!?

That's an obscurification. What he probably meant was the Moon.

As is apparent from a LITTLE deduction ... 'the ancients' could NEVER see what sign the sun is in .... because it would be daytime.

One could look at the full moon and see what CONSTELLATION that was in and then know the Sun would be in the opposite constellation.

It all makes sense from 'down here'.
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