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thank you minderwiz for the response to my question! so, no long term romance/marriage/partnership likely. the venus/mars tribe. thanks for clearing that up for me. dates etc, just nothing long term. good news on the writing aspect though! sounds promising. maybe that is a career path i should look into; as someone recently suggested it to me. again, much thanks for the reply back to me, it help to clear this all up for me
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Never had a horary reading before, surprising since I love Astrology....anyway.....
My question (hope its not too vague) Any significant changes coming up in my life for the rest of the year?
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I'm taking this question in a similar way to the previous one. Based on Lilly's reading for 'future accidents' (events outside your control).

The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is in Libra, where it is exaltation, so your in good condition and good health at the moment. Saturn is in the seventh House, but it is a wide house and Saturn is sextile the Descendant, but more importantly, trine the Ascendant. It's always a good sign when the Ascendant ruler is in aspect to the Ascendant. Saturn has two aspects to planets, a close applying trine from Venus (angular in the fourth House) and a sextile from the Moon angular in the tenth House, Both these aspects are favourable and suggest that the favourable things will come from home, family and real estate (Venus) and from career and Actions (Moon).

Venus rules the Second House of income, possessions and resources, and the eighth which usually relates to partner's resources, inheritences or taxation (eighth) or pay rise (second). As this is a trine, I don't think you're going to get a tax bill, lol - possibly a refund or small gift or inheritence. Venus is Peregrine, so it's not going to be much and you might need some help to get it. Venus also trines the Ascendant emphasising something coming your way.

Venus and the Moon are in opposition, which suggests that there might be some conflict involved. The Moon rules the sixth, usually associated with ill health or servants. Given that Saturn is quite strong in essential dignity, I don't see ill health as being a particularly significant threat, especially as the Moon is sextiling Saturn. So servants might be something of a problem lol - that can be tradesmen that you use, agents that you use as well as anyone who works under you in your career (such as a secretary).

I don't take the opposition of Moon/Venus to be a threat of any kind, but it might signify difficult choices or that things don't work out smoothly - though they will work out.

The aspects to Saturn are very close, so I would think that the timing is likely to be earlier rather than later in the period. Saturn in a Cardinal or Moveable sign suggests some changes coming and a gain fairly swiftly.

The Lots of Fortune (things that befall you) and Spirit (Your choices to act) are ruled by Venus and the Moon respectively, though Saturn actually has more dignity at the place of the Lot of Fortune. There's no threat here, more promise again. In the Seventh that might relate to partnerships, but the Lot is actually some distance from the Descendant, so don't build your hopes up LOL.

Spirit is ruled by the Moon which is in the bounds and face of Saturn, and the Moon is applying to Saturn by sextile. I think you will be able to take the decisions and action that you need to achieve your goals during this period. The Lot of Spirit is in the Fifth, so perhaps romance and fun may have a place in the coming few months. Generally the Moon is not strong so, it's not going to be a hugely wonderful time but it is going to be positive, not negative.

Career, income and resources are the general areas that are favourable, there may just be something positive in how relax and have fun (and romance).
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'Will my Mum remarry or enter into a relationship during the next 18 months'


The question is about your Mum, I could use the 10th House here, but as your're not directly affected I'll give the first to her. That makes it easy to follow the reading. I'll double check the reading against what I would have got using the 10th for her.

The chart has Sagittarius rising, so she is signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is in Gemini, where it is in Detriment, and is conjunct the Descendant. I would read 'Detriment' here as being vulnerable, which a person looking for a relationship is. This position also confirms her desire for a relationship, as she is in the sign of the significant other. Jupiter also rules the Part of Marriage which lies in the first House, another confimation of her desire for a relationship.

The significant other is Mercury, who is in Leo in the 8th House. Mercury is currently retrograde and combust, so Mercury's accidental dignity is quite low and in Leo Mercury is Peregrine.

If Mercury was Direct, it would be moving towards a Sextile with Jupiter, and as Mercury is in the Terms of Jupiter there would definitely be some interest in a relationship. That would be a positive outcome. But Retrograde, Mercury is moving away from the sextile, not towards it.

There's no contact by antisica,

So the next thing I'll check is the Moon. The Moon lies at 17 degrees Aquarius, just past the trine to Jupiter but it's next aspect is to the Lot of Fortune by Trine and then Saturn by Trine. There is no potential aspect to Mercury.

The final check is using the alternative significators, Sun for him and Venus for your Mother. The Sun is in Leo, so it is very strong in essential dignity, it is also in the Face of Jupiter, so the significant other would not be averse to a relationship, but that's the strongest it gets. However the Sun and Jupiter are in a partile trine and for Jupiter the Sun is the triplicity ruler - so there's a mild mutual reception and a strong aspect.

I think that signifies a good change - at least of meeting someone she will like and who might consider a relationship with her....whether it will be come a full blown relationship in that period, I'm not sure but there's the prospect of at least something favourable.

Now if I'd have used the tenth for your Mother, she would have been signified by Venus and the significant other by Mars. Mars is at 17 Libra, Venus at 25 Gemini, so as with the situation with Mercury and Jupiter there is a separating favourable aspect (by Trine). He, (Mars) is in the sign of Venus, so he would be keen for a relationship. Venus however is not in a dignity of Mars So she wouldn't be keen on him.

There is no relationship by antiscia

The Moon is at 17 Aquarius in Partile Trine to Mars, but it's next aspect is the Trine to the Lot of Fortune and then Saturn, in close succession before it Trines Venus. It's a 'so near yet so far' situation.

I can't use Venus for her, but I can use the Sun for him. Sadly the Sextile between Sun and Venus has passed.

Both readings give a situation where a relationship is stressed and give relevant planets is possible positive outcomes. The first one does give a real possibility of at least a meeting with someone she will like, though whether he will feel strongly enough to continue it I'm not sure.

My feeling is the first is the best suggestion of what is likely to happen but both at least show the same general environment of romance.
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That makes sense. I feel bad for her cause she claims she doesn't care but thats not true.
She is always talking about whether she will stay single or not.

Its going to be hard to tell her!! I think is mostly her fault she's alone, she likes them young!!
OMG I feel kind of bad saying that, but oh well!!

Thank you again, have a wonderful weekend!!!!
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Remember that the reading assumes she will act towards the goal of the question. If she stays at home and does nothing then nothing will happen. So at least you can suggest she goes out and socialises. In that case I think she'll meet someone .....how far it progresses thereafter is in their hands.
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I'm taking this question in a similar way to the previous one. Based on Lilly's reading for 'future accidents' (events outside your control).

The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is in Libra, where it is exaltation, so your in good condition and good health at the moment. Saturn is in the seventh House, but it is a wide house and Saturn is sextile the Descendant, but more importantly, trine the Ascendant. It's always a good sign when the Ascendant ruler is in aspect to the Ascendant. Saturn has two aspects to planets, a close applying trine from Venus (angular in the fourth House) and a sextile from the Moon angular in the tenth House, Both these aspects are favourable and suggest that the favourable things will come from home, family and real estate (Venus) and from career and Actions (Moon).
Good I do have some career changes coming up.
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Venus rules the Second House of income, possessions and resources, and the eighth which usually relates to partner's resources, inheritences or taxation (eighth) or pay rise (second). As this is a trine, I don't think you're going to get a tax bill, lol - possibly a refund or small gift or inheritence. Venus is Peregrine, so it's not going to be much and you might need some help to get it. Venus also trines the Ascendant emphasising something coming your way.
Cool Oh I got a 20 cent raise today! lol
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Venus and the Moon are in opposition, which suggests that there might be some conflict involved. The Moon rules the sixth, usually associated with ill health or servants. Given that Saturn is quite strong in essential dignity, I don't see ill health as being a particularly significant threat, especially as the Moon is sextiling Saturn. So servants might be something of a problem lol - that can be tradesmen that you use, agents that you use as well as anyone who works under you in your career (such as a secretary).
lol I'll keep my servants on a tight leash
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I don't take the opposition of Moon/Venus to be a threat of any kind, but it might signify difficult choices or that things don't work out smoothly - though they will work out.

The aspects to Saturn are very close, so I would think that the timing is likely to be earlier rather than later in the period. Saturn in a Cardinal or Moveable sign suggests some changes coming and a gain fairly swiftly.

The Lots of Fortune (things that befall you) and Spirit (Your choices to act) are ruled by Venus and the Moon respectively, though Saturn actually has more dignity at the place of the Lot of Fortune. There's no threat here, more promise again. In the Seventh that might relate to partnerships, but the Lot is actually some distance from the Descendant, so don't build your hopes up LOL.

Spirit is ruled by the Moon which is in the bounds and face of Saturn, and the Moon is applying to Saturn by sextile. I think you will be able to take the decisions and action that you need to achieve your goals during this period. The Lot of Spirit is in the Fifth, so perhaps romance and fun may have a place in the coming few months. Generally the Moon is not strong so, it's not going to be a hugely wonderful time but it is going to be positive, not negative.

Career, income and resources are the general areas that are favourable, there may just be something positive in how relax and have fun (and romance).
Good about career, I'm making some changes. I don't have many fun and/romantic opportunities so that'd be nice. I'll let you know if romance peaks around the corner

Thanks
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My question is will I get married or be in a marriage like relationship in the next 18 months?

You had read for me before back in Jan in the DIY thread on a similar type question and you were right. There have been some changes since the time frame on that reading which had been 6 months. I hope that I can ask the same sort of question again. If not just let me know.
the background is that
I am still single. I have one of those it's complicated type relationships where it's one step forward and two steps back. I am trying, like always, to be open minded and not be so narrowly focused on is it going to be X.
The chart has Virgo rising, making your significator Mercury. Mercury is placed in Leo in the eleventh House. In Leo, Mercury is Peregrine, which is usually seen as a situation where you may need guidance or help and support to achieve your goals. The eleventh is concerned with Hopes and Aspirations, so the chart suggests you will need some help in achieving your hopes. The Sun rules Leo and is a natural significator of men in general and a husband or partner in particular. In this chart The Sun not only rules Leo but is the Triplicity ruler of the Fire Triplicity, so it is very powerful. There is no exaltation ruler in Leo but Mercury is in the Terms of Jupiter, and Jupiter is the symbol of the significant other. So that is a good overall situation, especially as Mercury is Direct and free from the Sun's beams and is not afflicted by any malefic.

Jupiter is the potential partner, and Jupiter is in Gemini in the ninth House, of Dreams, travel and higher learning. As Gemini is ruled by Mercury, the potential partner is going to be attracted to you, Jupiter too is Direct, free from the Sun's beams and free from malefic aspects.

The good thing is that Mercury is applying to a sextile with Jupiter and as there is some mutual reception (Ruler and Terms) that bodes very well.

The sextile and mutual reception are not the strongest indicators we could have but they are still pointing reasonably strongly at a positive outcome. At the very least I expect you to meet someone and seriously consider such a relationship, and they will be even more strongly in favour than you are. I think this could well work out.
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First let me thank you for all your work Minderwiz. I appreciate it.
I can say that mercury being peregrine in Leo is very much how i am feeling. A bit lost and in need of some help in the hopes and wishes. I try to be optimistic but some times that is difficult.
I like the rest of the reading as it is very nice and hopeful. Honestly, I can see things working out very well too. It's just one of those "feelings" that everything is going to work out nicely even though I might not see it right this instant. I like the potential of a positive outcome. very nice.
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like so many posters, it's weird that i've never had a horary reading before... but i'd like one, if you please!

i have, of course, a romance question (doesn't everyone?), but i think i'd like to concentrate instead on my living arrangements. i have made plans to change them to something i think will work better for me, but i'd like to know if you see any friction or a hitch in my plans or factors that i'm not considering (good or bad), and how pleased (or not) i will be with my next move. my time frame is for moving in october.

if you need any more information, please PM... and thank you so much for offering these!
I missed this when it was first posted but subsequent PM's have established that the real concern is the response of stefficus' sister to her plan's to move to a new apartment. In particular the question is now:

[b][i]What will be my sister's reactions to my plans to move?[i][b]

The first chart I tried had less than one degree rising, a sign that the chart is not valid. In the case of serious questions (and this is a serious question) it tends to mean that it might be too early to know the outcome.

I've since cast a second chart (I allow three goes before I decide the question can't be answered) and I've attached the chart to this post.

The chart has Scorpio rising so you are signified by Mars. In this chart Mars is in Scorpio, in it's own Terms and Face, so you are essentially very strong here....which mirrors the current situation where your plans are being implemented and will be fulfilled. Mars is placed in the twelfth House, which is traditionally a weak placement in the chart, it can signify hidden things, sorrow, imprisonment, afflictions and self undoing. The relevant ones here are hidden (you have not revealed your plans or intentions to your sister) and possibly self undoing (there is clearly a fear that she might intervene in someway or sabotage your plans) And both of these are your clear main concerns. Mars makes no major aspect to the Ascendant, which is again a sign of some weakness but it is moving towards an application to a conjunction (It's currently 7.8 degrees from the conjunction and Mars has an orb of 7 degrees....you're almost at the point where your plans become clear and identified with you, you've gone public if you like but not quite yet. This is further reflected by Mars being in a separating sextile to the Sun, ruler of the tenth House of Actions, Career, Public Status, etc. A separating action shows things in the past, and it's clearly shown that you've already started the plans in motion.

Your sister is signified by Saturn, ruler of the third house of siblings. The chart shows that Mars is in a separating, and now out of sign, conjunction with Saturn. You are moving away from her into a new domicile. Saturn is also in the twelfth House, and could be identified as a 'private enemy; in the sense that she might take action of some sort to thwart your plans. Saturn is in it's exaltation sign of Libra, and is the triplicity ruler for the Air signs so it too has significant essential dignity, that is power to act. Indeed Saturn and Mars have equal essential dignity and the same accidental dignity, apart from Saturn being faster than normal.

Further more Saturn rules the fourth House, through Aquarius, and the fourth rules your home. Now that could be the current home, but the worry would be if it was your future home. As the cusp is in very late Aquarius (the 28th degree), I'm going to take this as your current home, the one that you will be shortly leaving. That fits in with what you have said, she rules the house (or at least has a major impact on how things are). Saturn also is in an applying trine to the fourth house cusp, further evidence of some power over your home.

Saturn is directly aspected by two planets, Mercury, by sextile (Mercury rules the eighth) and Venus by square (Venus rules Libra and through it the twelfth House). Neither of these aspects suggest increased power to act but they both suggest that she will be very, very, displeased by the news. In this chart, both are accidental malefics - through their rulerships of the unfortunate eighth and twelfth houses. As the aspects are applying they are stronger, and point to the future. Both are fairly close, so it's not going to be long before they have their effects.

The Moon which is a co-significator for you, has just separated from a square to Saturn and will eventually square Mars after it changes sign. That suggests that there will be a very difficult time ahead for you, from her, as the Moon is currently in the third house of siblings and will aspect Mars within that house. You can look forward to a very angry sister.

I think you know that already, the key question is can she stop it happening. Not by any direct action, but there will be a battle of wills in which you are evenly matched and you may find it very difficult to overcome her. If the fourth represented your new home, then I would say she'll win I still see the fourth as your existing home, because of the late degree which very often signifies a change coming up.

Cans she manage on her own? I would normally look at the second house from the third (that is the fourth house) to see the sibling's income and resources. However in this case Saturn rules both houses and apart from concluding that her only resources are the clothes she stands up in, I need a separate significator. There's no planet in the the fourth, nor is there an exaltation ruler, and the triplicity ruler is Saturn!

For this I'd have to take a natural significator of wealth and income - Jupiter. Saturn is in one of the minor dignities of Jupiter, so at least there's some connection. Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini. Her resources are not good. Jupiter is also in the eighth house - an unfortunate placement - so there's little hope for immediate improvement.

I can see this as a very difficult situation and whilst you can realise your plans, it's not going to be without a struggle, and possible alienation from your sister. I don't see her easily managing on her own, either.

At a personal level, I'd say this is the time to talk to her about your plans and see if you can work something out in as calm an atmosphere as you can. Springing a fate accompli on her will not lead to an agreed solution in the short term and may have adverse repercussions in the longer term.

Good luck!!
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i'm sorry this is late... been working too much and haven't logged in.
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I missed this when it was first posted but subsequent PM's have established that the real concern is the response of stefficus' sister to her plan's to move to a new apartment. In particular the question is now:

What will be my sister's reactions to my plans to move?

The first chart I tried had less than one degree rising, a sign that the chart is not valid. In the case of serious questions (and this is a serious question) it tends to mean that it might be too early to know the outcome.

I've since cast a second chart (I allow three goes before I decide the question can't be answered) and I've attached the chart to this post.

The chart has Scorpio rising so you are signified by Mars. In this chart Mars is in Scorpio, in it's own Terms and Face, so you are essentially very strong here....which mirrors the current situation where your plans are being implemented and will be fulfilled. Mars is placed in the twelfth House, which is traditionally a weak placement in the chart, it can signify hidden things, sorrow, imprisonment, afflictions and self undoing. The relevant ones here are hidden (you have not revealed your plans or intentions to your sister) and possibly self undoing (there is clearly a fear that she might intervene in someway or sabotage your plans) And both of these are your clear main concerns. Mars makes no major aspect to the Ascendant, which is again a sign of some weakness but it is moving towards an application to a conjunction (It's currently 7.8 degrees from the conjunction and Mars has an orb of 7 degrees....you're almost at the point where your plans become clear and identified with you, you've gone public if you like but not quite yet. This is further reflected by Mars being in a separating sextile to the Sun, ruler of the tenth House of Actions, Career, Public Status, etc. A separating action shows things in the past, and it's clearly shown that you've already started the plans in motion.
true. part of the reason i haven't "gone public" is that mom and i discussed some of the other things going on last week and she agreed that it was probably best not to pile this one.

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Your sister is signified by Saturn, ruler of the third house of siblings. The chart shows that Mars is in a separating, and now out of sign, conjunction with Saturn. You are moving away from her into a new domicile. Saturn is also in the twelfth House, and could be identified as a 'private enemy; in the sense that she might take action of some sort to thwart your plans. Saturn is in it's exaltation sign of Libra, and is the triplicity ruler for the Air signs so it too has significant essential dignity, that is power to act. Indeed Saturn and Mars have equal essential dignity and the same accidental dignity, apart from Saturn being faster than normal.

Further more Saturn rules the fourth House, through Aquarius, and the fourth rules your home. Now that could be the current home, but the worry would be if it was your future home. As the cusp is in very late Aquarius (the 28th degree), I'm going to take this as your current home, the one that you will be shortly leaving. That fits in with what you have said, she rules the house (or at least has a major impact on how things are). Saturn also is in an applying trine to the fourth house cusp, further evidence of some power over your home.
indeed. and this is why i think it may be a problem. she finds a way to thwart anything i want, and things are done according to her. but it is ME who is paying for the home.

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Saturn is directly aspected by two planets, Mercury, by sextile (Mercury rules the eighth) and Venus by square (Venus rules Libra and through it the twelfth House). Neither of these aspects suggest increased power to act but they both suggest that she will be very, very, displeased by the news. In this chart, both are accidental malefics - through their rulerships of the unfortunate eighth and twelfth houses. As the aspects are applying they are stronger, and point to the future. Both are fairly close, so it's not going to be long before they have their effects.

The Moon which is a co-significator for you, has just separated from a square to Saturn and will eventually square Mars after it changes sign. That suggests that there will be a very difficult time ahead for you, from her, as the Moon is currently in the third house of siblings and will aspect Mars within that house. You can look forward to a very angry sister.
well, i'm kind of expecting that, yes. i think what she doesn't realize is that i, too, am feeling very angry, trapped, and deceived. but yeah... she'll be mad that i don't want to support her anymore, after being manipulated into the situation. heh.

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I think you know that already, the key question is can she stop it happening. Not by any direct action, but there will be a battle of wills in which you are evenly matched and you may find it very difficult to overcome her. If the fourth represented your new home, then I would say she'll win I still see the fourth as your existing home, because of the late degree which very often signifies a change coming up.

Cans she manage on her own? I would normally look at the second house from the third (that is the fourth house) to see the sibling's income and resources. However in this case Saturn rules both houses and apart from concluding that her only resources are the clothes she stands up in, I need a separate significator. There's no planet in the the fourth, nor is there an exaltation ruler, and the triplicity ruler is Saturn!
she has just graduated from grad school and does not yet have a job in her field.

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For this I'd have to take a natural significator of wealth and income - Jupiter. Saturn is in one of the minor dignities of Jupiter, so at least there's some connection. Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini. Her resources are not good. Jupiter is also in the eighth house - an unfortunate placement - so there's little hope for immediate improvement.
the part about this that frustrates me is that i'm working two part time jobs, six days a week, that i despise to support both of us while she would have resources if she would take a job that she maybe didn't want. she IS putting out a lot of resumes, so we keep hoping. i know she doesn't really like the situation either, but... yeah.

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I can see this as a very difficult situation and whilst you can realise your plans, it's not going to be without a struggle, and possible alienation from your sister. I don't see her easily managing on her own, either.

At a personal level, I'd say this is the time to talk to her about your plans and see if you can work something out in as calm an atmosphere as you can. Springing a fate accompli on her will not lead to an agreed solution in the short term and may have adverse repercussions in the longer term.
yeah, part of the reason i was saving it was because she was out of town. *siiiiiiiiigh* this was never supposed to be for more than a couple of months, and wasn't really supposed to happen at all. but now that it HAS, it feels like she has settled in and i am not okay with that. i do not want to kick her out on the street. but if we continue this way, i WILL have a nervous breakdown and we will BOTH be out on the street. seriously. i can't do it. i'm just afraid she will never, ever see it that way.

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thank you! i know i sound terribly whiny. i appreciate the reading!
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