Adrian Goldwetter
Tx Abrac I just looked.
Patrick Hederman should have got it a bit right there:
>> The SM emblazoned on the front describes the opposites that need to be combined, a symbiosis of conflicting needs required to harness creatively the turbulent violence of instinctual nature. Domination is not the answer; nor is craven submission. Discipline comes from harmonious involvement in appropriate and spontaneous activity. <<
He is talking about the horses that are depicted like they would like to go in opposite directions but finally the RED (Sulphur) one should lead the course of the action like on the concerned stage of the alchemical work we are educated about when watching - there is a functional HARNESS to chain the FORCES to a CAUSE (The CHARIOT) - BUT no REIGNS are involved and so no CONTROL like WE would know it.
The "control" would be the WISDOM of The CHARIOTEER who KNOWS his "customers" {S.M} [sic!] and "steers" them by providing the proper CONDITIONS (due to their instinctive nature) that will seduce both to go where HE wants them > The (al)chemical REACTION.
After all: BOTH went through the WEDDING (Hieros Gamos) before (AFTER they met on VI) and now are honeymooning like crazy.
TRUE TAROT: page 64 - picture 36 F-1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT
The slippery nature of Mercury (being code for a special kind of water) must be heated with Sulphur's help and afterwards condensed to develop further because The REBIS is waiting to be born.
One half of The HOLY is waiting in the chariot albeit in the guise of the charioteer that needs to be accompanied by the insightful JUSTICE to share according to entitlement and not necessarily equal - but that would be for a thread not for a comment...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebis
TRUE TAROT: page 76 - picture 40 B
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT
In short the 2 forces of nature Sulphur & Mercury embodied by the horses are lead by their nature so that they can reach their full potential together while they are chained to a cause that is destined to a triumphant end.
On another hand it's always fun to hear jmd talk alchemy and the why and the how - like here.
The names and abbreviations are in some cases questionable - at least concerning that seemingly ... idea in Tarot circles that NasCONVER stands for an author with the Name Nicolas Conver who was not even born when "his" deck was made - but obviously only when you dare to believe in the account in the Bibliothèque nationale de France:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb43706229t
http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb16721159s
Quote: Conver, Nicolas (1784-1833). Graveur
So: tx for the link Abrac
Adrian
P.S. @ Sumada: for {V.T} [sic!] you could have a try with V.I.T.R.I.O.L and see how you like it because alchemists used the funniest methods to disguise their cause. It goes in a similar direction as the {S.M} Not identical though to a T - but since MERCURY could not only be looked at as WATER because of it's fleeting motion - it is a METAL with shiny properties.
A little example for V.I.T.R.I.O.L (quote from link):
>> One unique property of sulfuric acid is the dissolution [to stay in our fiery allegory above we cold go with "burning" instead of "dissolution" because when we burn something ASHES are left after the process] of metals- all except for gold, on which it has no effect. <<
http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2658
When you will click there you will see this illustration often showing up in alchemical works by modern interpreters.
Well known title: The Green Lion Devouring The Sun
The text of the inscription translated into modern English by contemporary alchemical experts I was told:
>> Of Our Mercury which is the Green Lion Devouring the Sun <<
Well - he is NOT (or only in a way... ) That's the whole point of the picture.
The SUN is CODE for GOLD that can NOT be eaten by the most aggressive Lion and it's sharp teeth (The SULPHURIC ACID > Sulphur) under normal circumstances.
You see The SUN with a quite HAPPY face between the fangs of the beast and The BLOOD stems NOT from The SUN but from his GUMS who let the TEETH go...
When you can identify/make a special GREEN lion instead that can do just that you are back on track (in short).
As the lore goes you have to add Mercury TO the Sulphur(ic acid) so that the NATURE of the usual lion (carnivorous - aggressive - wild - ... ) is CHANGED.
NOW Sulphur & Mercury (The WEDDING above!) can go on the hunt for The SUN (that is NOT only code for GOLD but plenty of other subjects from very different realms of NATURE) TOGETHER (as in > The CHARIOT - especially in the {V.T} VII where the author had both horses painted the same color because in HIS mindset they were perceived as ONE force already) to achieve wondrous things!
The REBIS!
Since The SUN came up this morning (and probably will keep doing so for some time) and ALCHEMISTS claimed that a green LION was in their possession for DEVOURING the light this should be another picture for something else.
DEVOURING could mean TRANSFORM because that is what happens after eating...
And The BLOOD that is spilled here (because it is alchemy!) can be taken for The ESSENCE of LIFE and to get a grip on that you should know about HOW human conception and the circle of nature was perceived in the (at least) 16th century where this picture was documented.
Not all that is spilled is blood and a special blood can be only spilled ONCE.
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Patrick Hederman should have got it a bit right there:
>> The SM emblazoned on the front describes the opposites that need to be combined, a symbiosis of conflicting needs required to harness creatively the turbulent violence of instinctual nature. Domination is not the answer; nor is craven submission. Discipline comes from harmonious involvement in appropriate and spontaneous activity. <<
He is talking about the horses that are depicted like they would like to go in opposite directions but finally the RED (Sulphur) one should lead the course of the action like on the concerned stage of the alchemical work we are educated about when watching - there is a functional HARNESS to chain the FORCES to a CAUSE (The CHARIOT) - BUT no REIGNS are involved and so no CONTROL like WE would know it.
The "control" would be the WISDOM of The CHARIOTEER who KNOWS his "customers" {S.M} [sic!] and "steers" them by providing the proper CONDITIONS (due to their instinctive nature) that will seduce both to go where HE wants them > The (al)chemical REACTION.
After all: BOTH went through the WEDDING (Hieros Gamos) before (AFTER they met on VI) and now are honeymooning like crazy.
TRUE TAROT: page 64 - picture 36 F-1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT
The slippery nature of Mercury (being code for a special kind of water) must be heated with Sulphur's help and afterwards condensed to develop further because The REBIS is waiting to be born.
One half of The HOLY is waiting in the chariot albeit in the guise of the charioteer that needs to be accompanied by the insightful JUSTICE to share according to entitlement and not necessarily equal - but that would be for a thread not for a comment...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebis
TRUE TAROT: page 76 - picture 40 B
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68581697/TRUE-TAROT
In short the 2 forces of nature Sulphur & Mercury embodied by the horses are lead by their nature so that they can reach their full potential together while they are chained to a cause that is destined to a triumphant end.
On another hand it's always fun to hear jmd talk alchemy and the why and the how - like here.
The names and abbreviations are in some cases questionable - at least concerning that seemingly ... idea in Tarot circles that NasCONVER stands for an author with the Name Nicolas Conver who was not even born when "his" deck was made - but obviously only when you dare to believe in the account in the Bibliothèque nationale de France:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb43706229t
http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb16721159s
Quote: Conver, Nicolas (1784-1833). Graveur
So: tx for the link Abrac
Adrian
P.S. @ Sumada: for {V.T} [sic!] you could have a try with V.I.T.R.I.O.L and see how you like it because alchemists used the funniest methods to disguise their cause. It goes in a similar direction as the {S.M} Not identical though to a T - but since MERCURY could not only be looked at as WATER because of it's fleeting motion - it is a METAL with shiny properties.
A little example for V.I.T.R.I.O.L (quote from link):
>> One unique property of sulfuric acid is the dissolution [to stay in our fiery allegory above we cold go with "burning" instead of "dissolution" because when we burn something ASHES are left after the process] of metals- all except for gold, on which it has no effect. <<
http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2658
When you will click there you will see this illustration often showing up in alchemical works by modern interpreters.
Well known title: The Green Lion Devouring The Sun
The text of the inscription translated into modern English by contemporary alchemical experts I was told:
>> Of Our Mercury which is the Green Lion Devouring the Sun <<
Well - he is NOT (or only in a way... ) That's the whole point of the picture.
The SUN is CODE for GOLD that can NOT be eaten by the most aggressive Lion and it's sharp teeth (The SULPHURIC ACID > Sulphur) under normal circumstances.
You see The SUN with a quite HAPPY face between the fangs of the beast and The BLOOD stems NOT from The SUN but from his GUMS who let the TEETH go...
When you can identify/make a special GREEN lion instead that can do just that you are back on track (in short).
As the lore goes you have to add Mercury TO the Sulphur(ic acid) so that the NATURE of the usual lion (carnivorous - aggressive - wild - ... ) is CHANGED.
NOW Sulphur & Mercury (The WEDDING above!) can go on the hunt for The SUN (that is NOT only code for GOLD but plenty of other subjects from very different realms of NATURE) TOGETHER (as in > The CHARIOT - especially in the {V.T} VII where the author had both horses painted the same color because in HIS mindset they were perceived as ONE force already) to achieve wondrous things!
The REBIS!
Since The SUN came up this morning (and probably will keep doing so for some time) and ALCHEMISTS claimed that a green LION was in their possession for DEVOURING the light this should be another picture for something else.
DEVOURING could mean TRANSFORM because that is what happens after eating...
And The BLOOD that is spilled here (because it is alchemy!) can be taken for The ESSENCE of LIFE and to get a grip on that you should know about HOW human conception and the circle of nature was perceived in the (at least) 16th century where this picture was documented.
Not all that is spilled is blood and a special blood can be only spilled ONCE.
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