Huck
Impressive and much - although mostly not understandable in my world. It seems, you had an interesting youth - "international marriage"
Here the international marriage took place around the 70ies (or at least "my international marriage"), when Asian literature, foreign Gurus and esoterical matters of all kind invaded our culture, putting some pressure on standard religions ...
As a result I can play Go better than most Japanese .. and autorbis once played on a level, where he could beat European champions. However, we started to late in age ... and reaching the best levels seems only possible, when you start very early.
Black Death, just to avoid that we lose the theme completely, perhaps we should rename the thread with "international marriage", was also a result of international exchange, forced by the Mongols, and the whole history of playing cards wouldn't have taken place without this invasion from the East
But Rochus is not the Fool ... Rochus is very far from it, I would say. "Near" - to the Bembo-Fool - is the "Stupidity" or "Stultitia" interpretation of Giotto in the Arena-Chapel.
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/highlight...dova/decorati/7vices/53foolis.html&find=arena
A nearness between Marseille Tarot and Belgian very early iconography of virtues doesn't tell too much. The Milanese Trionfi production interpreted common, international farspread general symbols in a personal lombardic way, others (for instance the Marseille-Tarot) got the Italian idea and interpreted the idea in their own traditional way (which was perhaps a little nearer to some Belgian traditions than to Lombardic specialities).
Such an action doesn't change Tarot History.
Belgia has a very rich Flemish art tradition, especially in regard to early printing techniques. Flemish artists were famous in early renaissance in Italy. They exported culture and specific ways to paint to Italy. Rogier van Weyden for instance. A painter from the Sforza court was sent to him to learn to paint. He loved too much the wine and Rogier was angered about him. Great Duchessa of Milano, Bianca Maria Visconti, wrote an letter of excuse ....
In Tournay was started a playing card production 1426/1427. They had a lot of exports. Rogier came from this city.
The political background of this high culture in Belgia is the house of Burgund, which nearly formed in the 70ies of 15th century a kingdom between France and Germany, a dream, which was finished 1477 with a militarical catastrophe. France and the German Empire profited from this development, but still on the landmap the small Benelux-countries Netherland, Belgia and Luxembourg remind this earlier glorious epoch.
The influence of Flemish art spread through all Europe. An appearance of early Flemish motifs in the Marseille Tarot says - nothing.
St. Rochus ... the early Flemish and German printing archive of 15th and 16th century is full of fools. Sebastian Brant made a book about Fools and it is full of prints made by Duerer for instance. 100s of fools just by this production.
Either somebody wanted to paint St. Rochus or the "general fool" ... that is not possible to state, that St. Rochus is the Fool, that's nonsense and doesn't help anybody, at least in history of art
Here the international marriage took place around the 70ies (or at least "my international marriage"), when Asian literature, foreign Gurus and esoterical matters of all kind invaded our culture, putting some pressure on standard religions ...
As a result I can play Go better than most Japanese .. and autorbis once played on a level, where he could beat European champions. However, we started to late in age ... and reaching the best levels seems only possible, when you start very early.
Black Death, just to avoid that we lose the theme completely, perhaps we should rename the thread with "international marriage", was also a result of international exchange, forced by the Mongols, and the whole history of playing cards wouldn't have taken place without this invasion from the East
But Rochus is not the Fool ... Rochus is very far from it, I would say. "Near" - to the Bembo-Fool - is the "Stupidity" or "Stultitia" interpretation of Giotto in the Arena-Chapel.
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/highlight...dova/decorati/7vices/53foolis.html&find=arena
A nearness between Marseille Tarot and Belgian very early iconography of virtues doesn't tell too much. The Milanese Trionfi production interpreted common, international farspread general symbols in a personal lombardic way, others (for instance the Marseille-Tarot) got the Italian idea and interpreted the idea in their own traditional way (which was perhaps a little nearer to some Belgian traditions than to Lombardic specialities).
Such an action doesn't change Tarot History.
Belgia has a very rich Flemish art tradition, especially in regard to early printing techniques. Flemish artists were famous in early renaissance in Italy. They exported culture and specific ways to paint to Italy. Rogier van Weyden for instance. A painter from the Sforza court was sent to him to learn to paint. He loved too much the wine and Rogier was angered about him. Great Duchessa of Milano, Bianca Maria Visconti, wrote an letter of excuse ....
In Tournay was started a playing card production 1426/1427. They had a lot of exports. Rogier came from this city.
The political background of this high culture in Belgia is the house of Burgund, which nearly formed in the 70ies of 15th century a kingdom between France and Germany, a dream, which was finished 1477 with a militarical catastrophe. France and the German Empire profited from this development, but still on the landmap the small Benelux-countries Netherland, Belgia and Luxembourg remind this earlier glorious epoch.
The influence of Flemish art spread through all Europe. An appearance of early Flemish motifs in the Marseille Tarot says - nothing.
St. Rochus ... the early Flemish and German printing archive of 15th and 16th century is full of fools. Sebastian Brant made a book about Fools and it is full of prints made by Duerer for instance. 100s of fools just by this production.
Either somebody wanted to paint St. Rochus or the "general fool" ... that is not possible to state, that St. Rochus is the Fool, that's nonsense and doesn't help anybody, at least in history of art