venicebard
Yes, it is about the only point on which I have the audacity to disagree with Scholem; but he simply did not have all the facts. (In fact, rabbinical knowledge of the Hebrew alphabet itself -- the meanings of its letters and letter-shapes -- has lapsed terribly, sad to say, perhaps from ignoring other alphabets (that is, from lack of comparative study).eugim said:Again Venicebard hear Gershom Scholem about this topic.
Of course, for Plato was much concerned with eternal truths.6-We can find Plato thoughts even before Plato because Plato as others saw the common points of religion meeting.(THE ONE FIRE )
You and I approach tarot from a similar perspective and so can perhaps learn a great deal from each other: mine too is the perspective of the 'inner alchemy'.Well Venicebard, I m from Alchemy "INNER ALCHEMY" side and my vision of Tarot it just "MINE" not yours or that you want to decreed and after all I don t say the Card " Symbolizes" etc...
There is also the internal evidence of the trumps themselves: their order, their imagery, the fact that they reflect the nature of the atom-types of matching atomic number, the fact that when put together with Irish tree-calendar and the stipulations of Sefer Yetzirah they unfold the very basis of Hermetic science and show it to be intertwined with deep knowledge of nature and her forms (including chemistry and particle physics), all lead to a conclusion other than the 'conventional wisdom'. However, I have seemingly not convinced any (or many, at any rate) here of any of this, so your skepticism is in good company.How much knowledge you FOUND for say " it symbolizes "
Don t you think that may be just may be,symbol meaning comes after a deep insight about the images cards of course with a very heavy background of historic image evidence of the decks ?
Well, dominion and servitude are actually part of the image, are they not, as opposed to simply an interpretation of the image: horses serve driver, who has dominion over them. This is mere fact, not interpretation, as I see it.Then we could be have more qualification to say " that card means ..."
I'll grant you that I sometimes state ideas too imperiously. But there is nothing 'easy' about the conclusions I've reached: they are based on three-and-a-half decades of painstaking research and thought in attempting to reconstruct the actual reasoning behind tarot and Kabbalah both. The latter (i.e. reconstruction of its original teachings, kept secret and since lost) I have encapsulated in a 300-page book (down from 400 pages), which now even includes a complete parsing of the meanings of word-roots behind the vocabulary of the Bible (based on the idea its authors were trained 'bards', meaning Hebrew poets), which tends to reinforce conclusions many of which were reached long before.So you when say " THAT IS " the card meaning looks somewhat too much EASY conclusions ...
Yes, it is largely for their built-in skepticism that I respect them greatly!9-Here at the forum there are people like LES MARSEILLES,JMD and LE PENDV without any EASY conclusions.
Carry on.