Horary Astrology

Minderwiz

Yes that is a good question.

I prepared the chart and unfortunately it did not satisfy the considerations before judgement.

Can you wait a week and then post the question again.

Sorry but sometimes it is not the right time to read a chart and answer the question.
 

aeonx

I'll post it again.
Why was it that it sometimes doesn't work?

Thank you. :)

~aeonx~
 

Minderwiz

According Horary tradition there needs to be at least four considerations before judgment - if any of these are not met then the chart is regarded as not fit to be judged - that is any answer derived from it cannot be in any way relied on.

The four are:

Less than 3 or more than 27 degrees of a sign rising. - In effect this means that one fifth of all charts on average will not be valid (6 degrees out of 30). The argument is that some questions are asked to soon (or to late) to make a difference.

The Moon is Void of Course - that is, it will make no major aspect before it leaves its current sign. The Moon is the major planet in Horary and if it will not make any major aspect then the chances of an answer are much reduced.

The Moon is in the Via Combusta - the area from 15 degrees Libra to 15 degrees Scorpio. I understand that the reasons for this relate to the Sun's passage over the equator in this area of the Zodiac.

Saturn is in the seventh House - which is the House of the Astrologer reading the chart. Saturn in Horary is a malefic planet creating obstacles and difficulties. Therefore the Astrologer is likely to make a mistake in reading the chart.

I know that these are in many ways Arcane, but as a newcomer to Horary I am not yet ready to break the rules on these - though I am aware that experienced astrologers may do so. I want to learn the procedures and get them clear in my mind before I start bending rules
 

aeonx

Minderwitz.
Thank you, again, for clearing that up.
I've never heard about this kind of reading before. How usual is it? Do you know if there are many astrologers that practice this? For how long has it been around?

Lots of new questions here. :)

~aeonx~
 

Minderwiz

Its been around virtually as long as Astrology. In the form I use, it is derived from the work of William Lilly, the Seventeenth Century English Astrologer. However he used techniques which he derived from the Arab Astrologers of the eleventh and twelfth centuries. Doctor John Dee who functioned as an advsior to Elizabeth I also seems to have used similar techniques. Lilly also forecast the Great Fire of London so accurately that he was summoned to a Parliamentary Committee to explain how he knew so much about it.

Horary, along with other traditional branches of Astrology, such as Medical, and Electional flourished into the twentieth Century. However the developmen of psychological Astrology by Dane Rudhyar and followed up by Liz Greene led to something of a rejection of traditional methods. For Horary, Saturn is a malefic planet but in psychological natal astrology it receives a more constructive interpretation. Horary survived though and there are still many practicing Horary Astrologers. Recently there has been a revival of interest in traditional techniques - Rob Hand's Project Hindsight is a good example and has an excellent web site.

The work of Marc Edmund Jones, Sue Ward, Olivia Barclay, Carol Wiggers, John Frawley, Linda Reid, Lee Lehman and many more have turned Traditional Astrology into a thriving area. Tony Louis, who wrote Tarot Plain and Simple is a practicing Horary Astrologer (and psychiatrist), he also wrote Horary Astrology Plain and Simple - both books are published by Llewellyn.

I notice now that many of the earliest texts of Astrologers are being republished so you might find works by Dorotheus, Manilus, Fermicus, Al Biruni, and Avraham Ibn Ezza appearing on the bookshelves of specialist Astrology bookshops.
 

aeonx

Wow, I had no idea. I would love to learn all this too, but I don't even have time for my tarot-cards. :( I'll have to catch up some other time.

~aeonx~
 

aeonx

OK, here we go again. :D

Will my relationship with Mr. X develop into a 'serious' one? (By serious I mean a relationship where we are officially together... not just lovers...) :)

~aeonx~
 

Minderwiz

Thanks aeonx

This time the chart is valid - so I'll be able to do a reading and will get back to you in the next few days.

Thanks
 

Keslynn

Hey, Minderwiz, would you mind doing a chart about finding a lost object? Or were you wanting to specifically do only action-oriented questions?

:) Kes
 

Minderwiz

Kes,

I'd love to have a go at finding a lost object - So long as it's not urgent that you find it quickly LOL

Just post a question asking where the object is and I'll have a go.