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I'm trying hard to phrase my question in an understandable fashion here (and I apologize if I'm using any terminology incorrectly -- this is only my second big push into trying to really grasp astrology...)...
Basically, I'm wondering if a conjunction bestows all the aspects experienced by one of the conjunct planets upon the other conjunct planet, and vice versa, simply because they're conjunct?
I'll offer an example to hopefully make the question clear:
First of all, I realize that different astrologers use different orbs when recognizing various aspects. I'm still learning, so I don't yet have a set of firm mental guidelines in place for this yet, myself. For the sake of getting my question across, I'm going to ask that we agree that within the context of this post and any direct replies that the required orb for conjunction will be 8 degrees, and for opposition it will be 6 degrees -- other aspects don't need to be addressed one by one, as I believe the overall answers will still be easily applied to them (assuming that there even are overall answers to this question!).
So say that Mercury sits in someone's chart at 5 degrees into Cancer.
In the same chart, Venus is at 10 degrees Cancer.
Also, say that Saturn is located at 1 degree Capricorn.
Using the stated orbs, then we can say that Mercury and Venus form a conjunction, and also that Mercury and Saturn comprise an opposition. Venus and Saturn, however, do not realize an opposition between them, as the orb that separates them is 9 degrees, which is too wide to satisfy the "within 6 degrees" requirement for an opposition.
My question, then, is this: since Venus is conjunct Mercury, and that means the two planets are bound up with each other in terms of their function and behavior within the context of this chart (and within the person that the chart describes), should Venus be regarded as being in opposition to Saturn anyway, simply by virtue of the conjunct bond shared with Mercury, which is truly in opposition with Saturn? Does the opposition status of Mercury "extend" to Venus here because of the conjunction they comprise?
Also, would the same logic apply (or not) to the Ascendant and Midheaven? I'm trying to understand a chart that has two planets on one side of the Ascendant, all of which are conjunct each other...and then two other planets on the other side of the Ascendant, also with all three conjunct each other...but the two pairs of planets are too far from each other to be conjunct. Does the Ascendant effectively "bind" them together into one large stellium? And does the Ascendant even count when we discuss stellia, or is that strictly for planets?
Please ask me for clarification if I didn't get my question across -- maybe I can attach a chart everyone can look at if visuals would help. Thank you in advance for any help with this!
Basically, I'm wondering if a conjunction bestows all the aspects experienced by one of the conjunct planets upon the other conjunct planet, and vice versa, simply because they're conjunct?
I'll offer an example to hopefully make the question clear:
First of all, I realize that different astrologers use different orbs when recognizing various aspects. I'm still learning, so I don't yet have a set of firm mental guidelines in place for this yet, myself. For the sake of getting my question across, I'm going to ask that we agree that within the context of this post and any direct replies that the required orb for conjunction will be 8 degrees, and for opposition it will be 6 degrees -- other aspects don't need to be addressed one by one, as I believe the overall answers will still be easily applied to them (assuming that there even are overall answers to this question!).
So say that Mercury sits in someone's chart at 5 degrees into Cancer.
In the same chart, Venus is at 10 degrees Cancer.
Also, say that Saturn is located at 1 degree Capricorn.
Using the stated orbs, then we can say that Mercury and Venus form a conjunction, and also that Mercury and Saturn comprise an opposition. Venus and Saturn, however, do not realize an opposition between them, as the orb that separates them is 9 degrees, which is too wide to satisfy the "within 6 degrees" requirement for an opposition.
My question, then, is this: since Venus is conjunct Mercury, and that means the two planets are bound up with each other in terms of their function and behavior within the context of this chart (and within the person that the chart describes), should Venus be regarded as being in opposition to Saturn anyway, simply by virtue of the conjunct bond shared with Mercury, which is truly in opposition with Saturn? Does the opposition status of Mercury "extend" to Venus here because of the conjunction they comprise?
Also, would the same logic apply (or not) to the Ascendant and Midheaven? I'm trying to understand a chart that has two planets on one side of the Ascendant, all of which are conjunct each other...and then two other planets on the other side of the Ascendant, also with all three conjunct each other...but the two pairs of planets are too far from each other to be conjunct. Does the Ascendant effectively "bind" them together into one large stellium? And does the Ascendant even count when we discuss stellia, or is that strictly for planets?
Please ask me for clarification if I didn't get my question across -- maybe I can attach a chart everyone can look at if visuals would help. Thank you in advance for any help with this!