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Does anyone have any thougths as to what the hat represents? it is a very unusual hat. Is that the sun at it's base?
According to this page:

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/headdress.htm

It is the Amen crown. This page also states that is the sun between the plumes. (I will not be held responsible if you scroll down that page and note that Min-Amen also wore the same crown. Surely Min is the God of Viagra for our times!)

On another note, do you think the Christians have any idea that every time they say "Amen," or read it in their holy book, that they are calling on the hidden Egyptian creator God?

Do those same Christians know the derivation of the name IsRaEl?

Isis = Is
Ra = Ra
El = El, as in Elohim

Thus endeth this post, Amen!
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Do those same Christians know the derivation of the name IsRaEl?

Isis = Is
Ra = Ra
El = El, as in Elohim

Thus endeth this post, Amen!
Wow! I did not know that. Thank-you for sharing it

BTW Who was Elohim?
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BTW Who was Elohim?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
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Hello all. Don’t know if anyone still discusses this deck...

When I first saw this card, it reminded me of the film 2001: A Space Odyssey! At the end of that film, a human astronaut is reborn as the ‘star child’ - the next stage of human evolution.

For me, the imagery on this card (the swirling lights which I took for being a galaxy) and the unborn foetus makes this the most profound card in the deck. I always thought the World represented the ultimate end of the journey (perhaps being the ‘god’ card?). I find the suggestion in this deck that it may be the Fool (as the creator god) who’s the ultimate force behind everything intriguing.
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I'm using this deck for my Intensive Deck Study (IDS - see the Talking Tarot forum) for at least 3 months. I see this group has languished, but I'll be posting my observations on, study of and questions about this deck. Hopefully others will join in.

Amun is the Fool. His headdress contains a deep circlet that represents the Sun and is surmounted by twin plumes that represent either a bird's wings (a reminder that he's the god of the sky) or his domination of both Upper and Lower Egypt.

The staff that the Fool carries is comprised of three elements:
  • the Waas scepter is the length of the wand from the forked base through the staff to the curved head - it symbolizes health, happiness and divine prosperity as well as power and dominion; it was associated with the qualities of divine rulership and was carried exclusively by gods and goddesses until late in Egyptian civilization; it was green in color because green symbolized fertility, life and resurrection
  • the Djed is the four perpendicular bars near the head of the staff - it represents stability and is also a phallic symbol
  • the Ankh is represented by the circle and the top perpendicular bar and is the symbol of life

Taken together the three symbols represent life, stability, power and dominion.

Lotus blossoms open at sunrise and close at night, so it makes sense that the blossoms would open for the egg that contains the sun god Horus.

Jewel-ry's comment about the flower/plant (anyone know what kind it is?) caused me to make the following observations. Both the galaxy swirling in the background and the waves crashing against the raised mound represent chaos. The Fool's potential encounter with the crocodile shows potential chaos. The plant blooms amid all this chaos, showing that without chaos, there wouldn't be life and that life continues in spite of chaos.

fall_guy's words about the galaxy (which I had also taken for a galaxy) came after I'd made my observations about chaos and its role in life. When I looked closer at the swirls of the galaxy, I noticed that some of them seem to radiate through or around the egg. That shows me that the Sun is part of the galaxy and therefore is also chaos, which hints at the future that awaits the Sun god who is contained within the egg.

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I know I am studying the bosch, but I can't help, but add a little something to egyptian study

I can't make out on the picture of the crown what the crown looks like (the first post in this thread), but I know that the crown for ruling over upper and lower egypt was two fold, not just the two plumes there was a top bit of crown and a bottom bit as they were originally separate crowns (a little obvious I know ) Also the Ankh actually symbolizes eternal life if this is of any significance to you.

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(My egypt books are upstairs in my bedroom and my baby is asleep there so I am frightened to get them incase I wake him!) I will have a look tomorrow and clarify the crown thing

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Haven't read the entire thread - just read Fluffy's post about the crowns and thought I would interject with THIS LINK.
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I believe the crown that Amun wears is a different crown than the double crown that symbolizes dominion over Upper and Lower Egypt. There's actually a picture of a statue of Amun wearing the same crown as in the Fool card in one of my Mythology books.

Rodney

ETA: In the references I have, the crown is called either a double-plumed crown or a tall crown.
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Right, the crown you are refering to Rodney is the "double -plummed headress" (also worn by osiris). I will try and post more on this later

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