Correlating the Courts

Richard

For reference, here is a table relating the courts of various esoteric decks with the Golden Dawn exoteric and esoteric titles.
 

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Zephyros

I thought Emperor and Empress were used in lieu of Prince and Princess. I guess I was wrong...

Then where did I make that up from? Hmmmmm....
 

Richard

I thought Emperor and Empress were used in lieu of Prince and Princess. I guess I was wrong...

Then where did I make that up from? Hmmmmm....
I remember that vaguely. It was in connection with the color scales, I think. Also there are the GD subtitles, like Emperor of the Salamanders, or whatever. The Knave of Pentacles is Princess and Empress of the Gnomes.
 

ravenest

Comparative charts are great IMO - thanks :)

Perhaps include the ' GD subtitles ' ? Although they may not be tarot CARD titles but the titles of a certain heirarchy of 'beings' or concepts that rule that element?

I light of the subject matter, always found this invocation interesting, from the Rite of Luna ;

PAN.

Mother of Light, and the Gods! Mother of Music, awake!
Silence and Speech are at odds; Heaven and Hell are at stake.
By the Rose and the Cross I conjure;
I constrain by the Snake and the Sword;
I am he that is sworn to endure--Bring us the word of the Lord!
By the brood of the Bysses of Brightening,
whose God was my sire;
By the Lord of the Flame and the Lightning,
the King of the Spirits of Fire
By the Lord of the Waves and the Waters,
the King of the Hosts of the Sea,
The fairest of all of whose daughters was mother to me;
By the Lord of the Winds and the Breezes,
the King of the Spirits of Air,
In whose bosom the infinite ease is that cradled me there;
By the Lord of the Fields and the Mountains,
the King of the Spirits of Earth
That nurtured my life at his fountains
from the hour of my birth;
By the Wand and the Cup I conjure;
By the Dagger and Disk I constrain;
I am he that is sworn to endure;
Make thy music again~!
I am Lord of the Star and the Seal;
I am Lord of the Snake and the Sword;

REVEAL US THE RIDDLE, REVEAL ! (my emphasis )


Bring us the word of the Lord;
As the flame of the sun, as the roar of the sea,
as the storm of the air,
As the quake of the earth--let it soar for a boon,
for a bane, for a snare,
For a lure, for a light, for a kiss, for a rod,
for a scourge, for a sword--
Bring us thy burden of bliss--
Bring us the word of the Lord."

;)
 

Grigori

That's really great, thanks for sharing LRichard
 

Zephyros

I remember that vaguely. It was in connection with the color scales, I think. Also there are the GD subtitles, like Emperor of the Salamanders, or whatever. The Knave of Pentacles is Princess and Empress of the Gnomes.

Yes, the color scales. I wonder where or why that's from. Still, it's just as well, Emperor makes me think of only one thing, Emperor Palpatine.
 

Richard

Yes, the color scales. I wonder where or why that's from. Still, it's just as well, Emperor makes me think of only one thing, Emperor Palpatine.
The color scales for the Four Worlds are King, Queen, Emperor (or Prince), and Empress (or Knave). I think someone was confused about the Emperor and Empress scales, and some of the responses were just as confused, if I recall correctly.

Emperor Palpatine indeed. :D
 

ravenest

Just a bit of coloured fun

The color scales for the Four Worlds are King, Queen, Emperor (or Prince), and Empress (or Knave). I think someone was confused about the Emperor and Empress scales, and some of the responses were just as confused, if I recall correctly.

Emperor Palpatine indeed. :D

As far as colours go :

Knights are colours that yell orders at us - they might even be 'unpleasant'

http://dpnow.com/archives/samsung-v50-fl.jpg

Queens are firm and commanding:

http://www.bubblews.com/assets/images/news/1221983783_1390481448.png

Emperors ( who are actually Kings who are displaced Princes ;) ) .... ie. 'wanna be' Kings and Emperors

http://wowroleplaygear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Regal-Robe2.jpg

And Empress colours are Princesses who subtly persuade us with whispers;

http://www.greatpastels.com/images/unique-colors-1.jpg

" Would you mind a reflecting sign
Just let it shine within your mind
And show you the colours that are real

...
Drop all your troubles, by the river side
Catch a painted pony
On the spinning wheel ride " :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK62tfoCmuQ
 

Richard

painted pony
 

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ravenest

I like ..... the background of that card :)