Voron said:
Not all Scorpio-types are jealous and controlling.
No, I suppose not...but that's all I've ever experienced with them. I wasn't making a generalized statement, so please don't misunderstand.
My mate and I have been in an open relationship for 6 years.
Gd bless you, I'd kill my partner for this. I couldn't stand it. And if that's the possessive Venus in Taurus in me, so be it! I embrace it. But good on both of you, if it works.
But Venus in Scorpio are *intense*. And that puts tension on you sensual, hedonistic Zen-loving Taurean nature.
Good and BAD tension!! It's true, these are intense, VERY emotional people..which also appeals to my Pisces Sun, no doubt. But why are they drawn to me, you know? Maybe because my Sun in Pisces is SO understanding of their drama...
They know there's a piece of their soul down in the dark, and they have to go face the demons, rescue it, and bring it back, resurrected and re-incorporate it into their psyche.
Yes, a Scorpio friend of mine (Scorpio Sun/Ascendant/Venus--yikes, right?) says this about herself: she has a 'dark' side that she tries not to 'give in to'. But for someone with a sunny, happy-go-lucky Sag Moon disposition such as myself, all I can do is giggle and say, "You're being dramatic, again!" But it seems to be true for some Scorpios..esp. the Venus in Scorpio.
So sometimes, Scorpio becomes bitter, depressed, cynical, broken and defeated, when faced with overwhelming, unbeatable odds and certain defeat. Then their less desirable manipulative traits come out.
Yes, I know several like this...very true. And I can mostly see right through their manipualtive traits, and I call them on it, and they get very angry and rather vengeful. Lovely bunch, when they aren't pleased with you...
Also, when they fail to face the darkness honestly, as so many do, they get the "impending doom" syndrome, where they keep looking over their shoulder, expecting the worst.
Yes, the Chicken Little Syndrome...I have seen this MANY times.
The HIDDEN FEAR creeps up and then their abandonment issues come up, and they get clingy and jealous, because they see the other as their anchor in the face of the dark.
Uh huh, yep!! I have this with an ex-lover with Venus in Scorpio..and it was a bit suffocating at times, and also...it made no sense to me--her jealousy--because I'm as loyal as they come. But it was her issue, not mine. Took a long time for me to accept this.
Part of the way to healing (and this is ESPECIALLY true of Venus in Scorpio) is that the other person will become a mirror and exhibit those parts of ourselves we have issues with. They're our own broken parts, but we see them in others.
Tell me about it!!! I became SOOO drained by being the "mirror" for this one Venus in Scorpio person..it was NEVER enough. It was extremely exhausting and almost sucked me into the abyss of darkness, too. Rough struggle, that was!
Now, it's very scary to go into the dark, and the idea of being betrayed or abandoned when you are so vulnerable is abhorent to the Scorpio -- they literally cannot do their healing work without the loyalty of another.
Makes sense, but when their darkness brings out the 'darker' side of them, and they try to manipulate you to stick around and help them heal is when I get the hell out! And, of course, that makes their issues THAT much bigger...
In the end we made a commitment, and said that some hell or high water, we had no choice. And that's the crux. When the other person embodies the issues you want to run away from (and we all *do* want to run away in the end) and you CANNOT run away from them, you are FORCED to deal with your issues.
You would HOPE it turns out this way, but even with a commitment made, my ex who had Venus in Scorpio still wanted one foot out the back door...after several years of this, I couldn't take it. Her very own fears of abandonment became a self-fulfilling prophecy and I had to leave--because her pushing to get me to leave, to see if I WOULD leave, finally worked. Sad, isn't it?
Now, all this complication must be utterly stressing out and confounding your simple, easy, natural view on relationships.
Amen to that! Yes, yes, emphatically...YES!
My view on Relationships: There are two people, and a relationship exists between them. This is true for every person you have ever interacted with. Period. Simple. Some you like, some you can't stand, Some you could care less. The details and degrees just vary. Simple.
I agree with this. And it's simple. Why can't some people understand this?? Makes me crazy...
Taurus invented the K.I.S.S. principle. (Enforced by Capricorn, circumvented by Virgo.)
What is that principle? Explain, please?
Oooh, I just looked it up: "Keep It Simple, Stupid". If that's what you meant, right on! It's true...keep it SIMPLE....dammit!
Hope this helps you understand Scorpio.
It re-affirms some of what I've learned, by trial and error, with lots of hurt in between. So, yes, thank you.
Scorpio isn't evil, they just live in a very much darker world.
No, not evil...just too intense...and goodness, they take SO much SO seriously!
Thank you, Voron.
GA
