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Phew, this thread is going fast! But I still owe an answer from far above:
That’s a good question, but I guess that my physics and philosophy stuff can’t contribute much to an answer. The average of all possible future outcomes might be rather bad. But there should be nothing that makes the outcomes that are even worse than average more likely that the better ones. If the general uncertainty also limits the knowledge of some divine entity then its knowledge shouldn’t be biased either.
Not that divine entities make much sense to me anyway, but a divine entity that deliberately produces biased answers because it sulks or wants to punish you for your improper attitudes seems particularly weird an implausible to me.
That leaves the human beings who have to perform the tarot reading in the end. I wouldn’t blame them for inaccurate readings in general (the blame is on the structure of the universe here), but they may be the cause of a bias towards readings that are too positive in the average.
Because often readers unconsciously pick up vibes from the querent (divination present or not) it may well be the querent who causes such a bias, especially when it is about relationships, like in the example from the beginning of the thread. People who have fallen in love often behave rather compulsive, they are so occupied by their desire that they tend to ignore low chances or the fact that they wouldn’t really fit together with the one they fancy. A similar sort of self-deception occurs with people who already are in a relationship. They often won’t admit to themselves if a relationship doesn’t work and it takes a long time while people pretend to themselves and others that things are fine until they suddenly split up and all friends and family are surprised or shocked. This bias I would guess is liable to influence the reader and let them produce a positive bias in relationship readings. Maybe a very experienced reader could avoid this bias. I don’t know.
But the readers themselves may be biased too. I’ll start form the point of view of a personal coach or therapist. What is a good rule of thumb for advice when someone is looking for a relationship but chances or perspectives are unclear and hard to judge? Well, there are two kinds of wrong advices. One is to recommend going for a relationship while it later turns out not to work. The other one is not to recommend it, while the fancied person may really be the one for a lifetime. From my personal experience those relationships that have turned out not to work bug me much less than the ones that never have existed because I will never know what I missed. Therefore in case of doubt I would always say “go for it and try”. I would be surprised if considerations like this wouldn’t influence a tarot reader in those situations where a reading isn’t spot on from the very beginning. And I actually think that this is fine.
Just let me bring this back to earth, and trivialize it in the worste possible way, like one of my querent put it : ( because I once ventured into a very similar explanation, without being too sure of it myself...) " Why, of all the possible universes, we invariably end up in the worste possible "state", as you would call it, or, to use your language again, we always experience the worste possible future our subconscious has to offer ?
Sorry for trivializing your excellent explanation, but really, I've accumulated some statistics on this over the years, from myself and the people I've read for or spoken with, and favourable predictions have a tendency to turn out wrong, never the other way around....
That’s a good question, but I guess that my physics and philosophy stuff can’t contribute much to an answer. The average of all possible future outcomes might be rather bad. But there should be nothing that makes the outcomes that are even worse than average more likely that the better ones. If the general uncertainty also limits the knowledge of some divine entity then its knowledge shouldn’t be biased either.
Not that divine entities make much sense to me anyway, but a divine entity that deliberately produces biased answers because it sulks or wants to punish you for your improper attitudes seems particularly weird an implausible to me.
That leaves the human beings who have to perform the tarot reading in the end. I wouldn’t blame them for inaccurate readings in general (the blame is on the structure of the universe here), but they may be the cause of a bias towards readings that are too positive in the average.
Because often readers unconsciously pick up vibes from the querent (divination present or not) it may well be the querent who causes such a bias, especially when it is about relationships, like in the example from the beginning of the thread. People who have fallen in love often behave rather compulsive, they are so occupied by their desire that they tend to ignore low chances or the fact that they wouldn’t really fit together with the one they fancy. A similar sort of self-deception occurs with people who already are in a relationship. They often won’t admit to themselves if a relationship doesn’t work and it takes a long time while people pretend to themselves and others that things are fine until they suddenly split up and all friends and family are surprised or shocked. This bias I would guess is liable to influence the reader and let them produce a positive bias in relationship readings. Maybe a very experienced reader could avoid this bias. I don’t know.
But the readers themselves may be biased too. I’ll start form the point of view of a personal coach or therapist. What is a good rule of thumb for advice when someone is looking for a relationship but chances or perspectives are unclear and hard to judge? Well, there are two kinds of wrong advices. One is to recommend going for a relationship while it later turns out not to work. The other one is not to recommend it, while the fancied person may really be the one for a lifetime. From my personal experience those relationships that have turned out not to work bug me much less than the ones that never have existed because I will never know what I missed. Therefore in case of doubt I would always say “go for it and try”. I would be surprised if considerations like this wouldn’t influence a tarot reader in those situations where a reading isn’t spot on from the very beginning. And I actually think that this is fine.