dadsnook2000
The last two phases and the aspects
Squares are recognized by everyone as being a major aspect. But, one square is not like anothe square. We have talked about the square before in this thread -- the opening square. The opening square, when the Moon has moved 90 degrees ahead of the Sun, was characterized by the urge to act, more energy applied than brains applied. The feeling that a struggle, and not always one that was going well, was happening is associated with this square.
When we reach a point where the Moon is 270 degrees in motion and distance ahead of the Sun, we have another square. This square also represents a challenge but the challenge is addressed from a position of competence and skills previously aquired. This square is where "the Man lives", its where he acts from. The opening square is threaded with futility, struggle, being unsure, acting because action seems to be needed. The closing square is where one has an approved podium to speak and act from, where one acts from his reputation, where one speaks for him/herself, for a company or institution, or for a cause. Confidence, projection, focus -- all of these things are brought into a one-sided struggle to convince, lead, make aware.
The only other two aspects before the Moon catches up with Sun and completes ints cycle as it starts another are the closing sextile and semi-sextile. The sextile is communication in review, teaching, testing, asking "do you remember?", reviewing. The semi-sextile, not considered of being important by many astrologers (including me), is best characterized as "sudden realization that this is your bus stop, the ride is about to end, its time to get off." In other words, the sextile is communicating those things important to you, the semi-sextile is when you listen to yourself and take some advice about the necessity of change.
Now, not everyone who has their Moon somewhere between 270 and 359 degrees ahead of the Sun will enjoy an actual "within-orb aspect." We can go back to our Sun-Moon Phase relationship. With the Moon at 270 degrees to 315 degrees ahead of the Sun, we have the CHANGER Phase. Here we can note a commitment being made to the future, to being inspiring so as to get others to move with you toward that vision. Once we find the Moon reaching the 315 degrees or being even closer to the Sun, we have the PROPHET Phase wherein there is an awareness of ones growth towards a new self.
** Huredriel is an example of the CHANGER Phase, the Moon being 53 degrees behind the Sun, 307 degrees ahead of the Sun. We have the Sun in the 10th, the Moon close to the 9th -- perhaps we should treat it as a combination of the 8th and 9th houses. The identity and will works its way by using personal magnetism and charm (8th house Moon) and an appeal based on being well informed, traveled, suave, poised (9th house Moon). So what does Huredriel do? -- perhaps that will be shared.
** Dadsnook (that's me) is an example of the PROPHET Phase. Sun in the 4th, Moon in the 3rd and approaching the 4th/IC. The Sun position suggests basic values and personal beliefs and tastes are highly important -- we have someone who insists on being a unique individual. The Moon in the 3rd/4th houses suggests a need to be heard (communication), to enjoy a facility of movement and mind (3rd house) and perhaps a need to follow through on inner feelings and developed personal values (4th house Moon). From my own warped perspective I see this as having to be creative, imaginative, busy, able to show and promote personal beliefs and interests.
A final word for this thread from me: We have covered the full cylce of Moon relative to the Sun, both in terms of aspects and phase meanings where aspects did not exist. It is now up to the list participants to join in and comment as they see fit so as to help us all better under the material given. Meanwhile, I have to go back and perhaps edit a prior posting as we had two participants who have the BELIEVER Phase in their charts and I think I only covered one. Dave.
Squares are recognized by everyone as being a major aspect. But, one square is not like anothe square. We have talked about the square before in this thread -- the opening square. The opening square, when the Moon has moved 90 degrees ahead of the Sun, was characterized by the urge to act, more energy applied than brains applied. The feeling that a struggle, and not always one that was going well, was happening is associated with this square.
When we reach a point where the Moon is 270 degrees in motion and distance ahead of the Sun, we have another square. This square also represents a challenge but the challenge is addressed from a position of competence and skills previously aquired. This square is where "the Man lives", its where he acts from. The opening square is threaded with futility, struggle, being unsure, acting because action seems to be needed. The closing square is where one has an approved podium to speak and act from, where one acts from his reputation, where one speaks for him/herself, for a company or institution, or for a cause. Confidence, projection, focus -- all of these things are brought into a one-sided struggle to convince, lead, make aware.
The only other two aspects before the Moon catches up with Sun and completes ints cycle as it starts another are the closing sextile and semi-sextile. The sextile is communication in review, teaching, testing, asking "do you remember?", reviewing. The semi-sextile, not considered of being important by many astrologers (including me), is best characterized as "sudden realization that this is your bus stop, the ride is about to end, its time to get off." In other words, the sextile is communicating those things important to you, the semi-sextile is when you listen to yourself and take some advice about the necessity of change.
Now, not everyone who has their Moon somewhere between 270 and 359 degrees ahead of the Sun will enjoy an actual "within-orb aspect." We can go back to our Sun-Moon Phase relationship. With the Moon at 270 degrees to 315 degrees ahead of the Sun, we have the CHANGER Phase. Here we can note a commitment being made to the future, to being inspiring so as to get others to move with you toward that vision. Once we find the Moon reaching the 315 degrees or being even closer to the Sun, we have the PROPHET Phase wherein there is an awareness of ones growth towards a new self.
** Huredriel is an example of the CHANGER Phase, the Moon being 53 degrees behind the Sun, 307 degrees ahead of the Sun. We have the Sun in the 10th, the Moon close to the 9th -- perhaps we should treat it as a combination of the 8th and 9th houses. The identity and will works its way by using personal magnetism and charm (8th house Moon) and an appeal based on being well informed, traveled, suave, poised (9th house Moon). So what does Huredriel do? -- perhaps that will be shared.
** Dadsnook (that's me) is an example of the PROPHET Phase. Sun in the 4th, Moon in the 3rd and approaching the 4th/IC. The Sun position suggests basic values and personal beliefs and tastes are highly important -- we have someone who insists on being a unique individual. The Moon in the 3rd/4th houses suggests a need to be heard (communication), to enjoy a facility of movement and mind (3rd house) and perhaps a need to follow through on inner feelings and developed personal values (4th house Moon). From my own warped perspective I see this as having to be creative, imaginative, busy, able to show and promote personal beliefs and interests.
A final word for this thread from me: We have covered the full cylce of Moon relative to the Sun, both in terms of aspects and phase meanings where aspects did not exist. It is now up to the list participants to join in and comment as they see fit so as to help us all better under the material given. Meanwhile, I have to go back and perhaps edit a prior posting as we had two participants who have the BELIEVER Phase in their charts and I think I only covered one. Dave.