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Stuff from Lingua Franca thread
I have, though, embarked on a study (which I should have performed long ago) of old Hebrew words starting with each letter that reinforce the bardic meaning, with special attention of course to the three-letter roots. And Robert, you might be glad to hear that I, who fear language study as consisting of endless memorization, now see that Hebrew is going to be simpler, in that words conjeal about the consonantal roots with only a difference in vocalization or the addition or insertion of one or two further letters: the roots themselves are not endless in number (being three-letter roots). As a preliminary to findings with regard to one letter, offered only as an example of what I am about, I bring over here what I originally posted on the Lingua Franca thread as to specific exoteric/esoteric letter-shifts:
Exoterically XII LePendu is punishment of a wrongdoer, hence L, whose meaning is 'teach, learn' (Hebrew lemedh). But esoterically, it is D the oak of self-sacrifice.
Exoterically, VI L'Amoureux is vav as conjunction, U-heather of summer, full moon, and love's consummation. But esoterically, it is that higher love represented by grape's sweetness, M-vine, which in Hebrew is a supplicant kneeling before the Ark (intermediate mem kneeling before rectangular container represented by final mem). [The Welsh (and Irish?) notoriously confused V and M, leading me to speculate that AMBROSIUS AVRELIENUS is MERLINUS AMBROSIUS (through AMRELINUS such like).]
Exoterically, XVI LaMaisonDieu is all those O words for the outward calamity, including OTRH 'Crown', and represents its unsettling. Esoterically, it is shin, the crown itself (currently with 3 prongs but originally with 4, according to tradition), and admonishes us: "Shsh, be silent concerning your sufferings."
Similarly, the P words for 'Paradise', 'Nakedness', 'Orifice of womb', etc. condense esoterically into the mere letter V, vav-as-conjunction, which represents (as U-heather) love's consummation. Or consider how those Q words for 'Summer', 'Sunbeam, Rey', and so on condense into the space of the mere letter yod, which is bardic II-mistletoe/loranthus -- the Golden Bough!
Or from another angle -- and quite striking -- consider samekh as SMK 'To support, Prop': to the Gnostic, man's exoteric support goes to XVI LeDiable, whereas esoteric support goes, more properly, to VIII Justice.
And consider how one of the three mothers, Sh-shin, is caught in the trappings of XXI LeMonde exoterically, while esoterically XXI The World is distilled out as teyt, the world-serpent (in square Hebrew one's crossed legs under one when meditating, in old Semitic and Greek the symbol for earth, a crossed circle, to represent the equator).
NOW:
Just one example of a pattern I expect to be repeated in most cases (though I am beginning to suspect that Hebrew mistook zayin for straif-'strife'-blackthorn based on its meaning 'weapon', which would make bardic I-yew tzaddi, a whistling, which would fit the fact that in Irish the letter was used to indicate shrillness, I believe).
Gimel: Whereas Mark has found words for the specific individual items pictured on trump III L'Imperatrice, here I present words relating directly to trump X LaRoue deFortune that I found in my favorite (new) Hebrew dictionary and confirmed to be old by checking in B. Davidson's Analytical Hebrew and Chaldean Lexicon, expressed using Mark's transliteration.
First, his GBYRH 'queen' has its root in GBR 'to become strong, powerful, mighty', which is more vague and generates other words besides just 'queen'. Now, with regard to FORTUNA:
GDSh 'heap'/'plenty'.
GVRL 'fate; lot', from root GRL, 'to be gritty, stony' and also 'lot, prop. the stone by which the lot was determined'.
GZL 'to rob, plunder' (jockying for position on wheel).
GLGL 'wheel; circle; winch' (was around the Empress's neck, now it is the whole card).
GAH 'rise'.
GMD 'dwarf'!, though only 'a kind of measure or length' in the Lexicon, which could easily have become 'dwarf' by medieval times, yet this is a specific object anyway (crowned atop wheel), not the trump's greater or inner meaning I think.
GDL 'grow, increase, become great'.
GMD 'reduce; contract'.
GMVL 'reward; payment; retribution; retalation; deed', from root GML '1. to retribute, to recompense, good or evil', and also 'ripen; mature', and of course 'camel'.
GMR 'finish, conclude' (come full circle?).
GNB 'steal; deceive; cross stealthily'.
GNZ 'treasure'.
GRS 'crush, mill, grind'.
GRO 'reduce, subtract, diminish'.
GRR 'drag, tow, bring about, imply' (dragged around by wheel?)
GShVM 'realization, materialization', and GShMY 'corporeal, material, temporal', both from root GShM 'to cause to rain' and also 'body'.
To these, which constitute a substantial portion of the G roots, I would add:
GLH 'go into exile, wander', and
GRSh 'expel, deport',
which point to the reason it means camel: in the geodetic bardic model based on Giza, G represents the desert approaches to lower Mesopotamia (from the west). (Earlier 'heap' or 'plenty' is what the poor camel has to carry.)
[I will continue my pursuit quietly for now and post its findings only once I have something more substantial to say.]
Well of course he is. The question is twofold, then: (1) is too much of each letter's words left out for what he's found to remain convincing, and more importantly (2) could one find most of the items under another letter -- if scattered under several letters, it would not constitute a fatal flaw methinks, and indeed I reject outright the possibility of there being as complete a collection of items shown on the cards for every card (though two or three are sparser than the rest) by any other method of letter-application.le pendu said:
I have, though, embarked on a study (which I should have performed long ago) of old Hebrew words starting with each letter that reinforce the bardic meaning, with special attention of course to the three-letter roots. And Robert, you might be glad to hear that I, who fear language study as consisting of endless memorization, now see that Hebrew is going to be simpler, in that words conjeal about the consonantal roots with only a difference in vocalization or the addition or insertion of one or two further letters: the roots themselves are not endless in number (being three-letter roots). As a preliminary to findings with regard to one letter, offered only as an example of what I am about, I bring over here what I originally posted on the Lingua Franca thread as to specific exoteric/esoteric letter-shifts:
Exoterically XII LePendu is punishment of a wrongdoer, hence L, whose meaning is 'teach, learn' (Hebrew lemedh). But esoterically, it is D the oak of self-sacrifice.
Exoterically, VI L'Amoureux is vav as conjunction, U-heather of summer, full moon, and love's consummation. But esoterically, it is that higher love represented by grape's sweetness, M-vine, which in Hebrew is a supplicant kneeling before the Ark (intermediate mem kneeling before rectangular container represented by final mem). [The Welsh (and Irish?) notoriously confused V and M, leading me to speculate that AMBROSIUS AVRELIENUS is MERLINUS AMBROSIUS (through AMRELINUS such like).]
Exoterically, XVI LaMaisonDieu is all those O words for the outward calamity, including OTRH 'Crown', and represents its unsettling. Esoterically, it is shin, the crown itself (currently with 3 prongs but originally with 4, according to tradition), and admonishes us: "Shsh, be silent concerning your sufferings."
Similarly, the P words for 'Paradise', 'Nakedness', 'Orifice of womb', etc. condense esoterically into the mere letter V, vav-as-conjunction, which represents (as U-heather) love's consummation. Or consider how those Q words for 'Summer', 'Sunbeam, Rey', and so on condense into the space of the mere letter yod, which is bardic II-mistletoe/loranthus -- the Golden Bough!
Or from another angle -- and quite striking -- consider samekh as SMK 'To support, Prop': to the Gnostic, man's exoteric support goes to XVI LeDiable, whereas esoteric support goes, more properly, to VIII Justice.
And consider how one of the three mothers, Sh-shin, is caught in the trappings of XXI LeMonde exoterically, while esoterically XXI The World is distilled out as teyt, the world-serpent (in square Hebrew one's crossed legs under one when meditating, in old Semitic and Greek the symbol for earth, a crossed circle, to represent the equator).
NOW:
Just one example of a pattern I expect to be repeated in most cases (though I am beginning to suspect that Hebrew mistook zayin for straif-'strife'-blackthorn based on its meaning 'weapon', which would make bardic I-yew tzaddi, a whistling, which would fit the fact that in Irish the letter was used to indicate shrillness, I believe).
Gimel: Whereas Mark has found words for the specific individual items pictured on trump III L'Imperatrice, here I present words relating directly to trump X LaRoue deFortune that I found in my favorite (new) Hebrew dictionary and confirmed to be old by checking in B. Davidson's Analytical Hebrew and Chaldean Lexicon, expressed using Mark's transliteration.
First, his GBYRH 'queen' has its root in GBR 'to become strong, powerful, mighty', which is more vague and generates other words besides just 'queen'. Now, with regard to FORTUNA:
GDSh 'heap'/'plenty'.
GVRL 'fate; lot', from root GRL, 'to be gritty, stony' and also 'lot, prop. the stone by which the lot was determined'.
GZL 'to rob, plunder' (jockying for position on wheel).
GLGL 'wheel; circle; winch' (was around the Empress's neck, now it is the whole card).
GAH 'rise'.
GMD 'dwarf'!, though only 'a kind of measure or length' in the Lexicon, which could easily have become 'dwarf' by medieval times, yet this is a specific object anyway (crowned atop wheel), not the trump's greater or inner meaning I think.
GDL 'grow, increase, become great'.
GMD 'reduce; contract'.
GMVL 'reward; payment; retribution; retalation; deed', from root GML '1. to retribute, to recompense, good or evil', and also 'ripen; mature', and of course 'camel'.
GMR 'finish, conclude' (come full circle?).
GNB 'steal; deceive; cross stealthily'.
GNZ 'treasure'.
GRS 'crush, mill, grind'.
GRO 'reduce, subtract, diminish'.
GRR 'drag, tow, bring about, imply' (dragged around by wheel?)
GShVM 'realization, materialization', and GShMY 'corporeal, material, temporal', both from root GShM 'to cause to rain' and also 'body'.
To these, which constitute a substantial portion of the G roots, I would add:
GLH 'go into exile, wander', and
GRSh 'expel, deport',
which point to the reason it means camel: in the geodetic bardic model based on Giza, G represents the desert approaches to lower Mesopotamia (from the west). (Earlier 'heap' or 'plenty' is what the poor camel has to carry.)
[I will continue my pursuit quietly for now and post its findings only once I have something more substantial to say.]
