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The question is "What will happen during the transits of Jupiter over my natal Uranus [1] in the coming months [2]"?
I'm trying to use Horary to get a glimpse into a future astrological phenomenon (in this case a transit over a natal planet) manifestinrg. It is a little meta, using Horary to try to predict the effect, if any, of a yet-to-happen transit, but since Lilly deals with alchemy etc with his horary practice. This should work
Questions
[A] Which significators should I use? Since this is a question that affects me, I get the first house, and since astrology/prophecy etc come under the 9th house, I choose the 9th house Lord as the quesited significator. Is this correct?
When using Whole Sign Houses, (I'm trying this out and this is causing some confusion, my usual house system is Placidus) is it enough that a *sign* based aspect exist between the significators?
Specifically (using Fagan Bradley Sidereal + Whole Sign Houses) for 14:54 hrs, 22 November 2016, Bangalore India, I have
Lord of ASC(Pisces rising) = Jupiter at 20 Virgo, so in the 7th Whole Sign House and Lord of the 9th (Scorpio) Mars at 14 Capricorn (11th Whole Sign House)
If we use the modern 'orb' system of 3 degrees either side, the significators are *barely* forming an applying trine
If we use Al Beruni moeity (my preferred choice), this is a solid trine, which has already 'engaged' and begun to come to perfection
If we use sign based aspects, this is a trine by sign, and approaching perfection.
I was wondering if the last were enough, to do horary with Whole Sign Houses? Or should we still use moiety?
The answer to this question (what will happen during the upcoming transit) would seem to hinge on the essential and accidental dignities of the 9th House Lord,here Mars, which is in Capricorn and exalted, so good dignity and Jupiter which is in detriment, but he is angular (practically conjunct DESC) and ruling 1st and 10th houses. Which brings me to
How does one factor in angularity in Whole Sign Horary? Jupiter is conjunct the descendant and would be considered angular using Placidus. When using WSH Is it sufficient for Jupiter to be (somewhere) in one of the 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th houses (== signs in WSH) Or does it need to be near the actual ASC/DESC etc points?
[C] To answer the question of what would happen during these transits (if anything) would the correct approach would be to look at the aspect last formed and to be formed , by the 9th house Lord?
(Lilly does something like this, where in the very first horary chart he examines in vol 2, he uses the past and future aspects of the *significator* - Lord of the ascendant (Sun in that example) to determine what has and will happen (you had a quarrel with your wife over property matters, but this will be settled thanks to a high placed officials efforts etc)- . This is something very new to me, I've heard of looking at the past and future aspects of the Moon, but never a non lunar body, but it seems to work for Lilly)
thanks in advance,
[1] I generally don't use planets beyond Saturn for transits , either as transiting or transited planets, or for any other astrological analysis but Uranus is exactly conjunct my IC, and I've noticed drastic effects as it received transits over the years. Experience trumps theory.
[2] 3 hits - one forward, one backward, then forward again
I'm trying to use Horary to get a glimpse into a future astrological phenomenon (in this case a transit over a natal planet) manifestinrg. It is a little meta, using Horary to try to predict the effect, if any, of a yet-to-happen transit, but since Lilly deals with alchemy etc with his horary practice. This should work
Questions
[A] Which significators should I use? Since this is a question that affects me, I get the first house, and since astrology/prophecy etc come under the 9th house, I choose the 9th house Lord as the quesited significator. Is this correct?
When using Whole Sign Houses, (I'm trying this out and this is causing some confusion, my usual house system is Placidus) is it enough that a *sign* based aspect exist between the significators?
Specifically (using Fagan Bradley Sidereal + Whole Sign Houses) for 14:54 hrs, 22 November 2016, Bangalore India, I have
Lord of ASC(Pisces rising) = Jupiter at 20 Virgo, so in the 7th Whole Sign House and Lord of the 9th (Scorpio) Mars at 14 Capricorn (11th Whole Sign House)
If we use the modern 'orb' system of 3 degrees either side, the significators are *barely* forming an applying trine
If we use Al Beruni moeity (my preferred choice), this is a solid trine, which has already 'engaged' and begun to come to perfection
If we use sign based aspects, this is a trine by sign, and approaching perfection.
I was wondering if the last were enough, to do horary with Whole Sign Houses? Or should we still use moiety?
The answer to this question (what will happen during the upcoming transit) would seem to hinge on the essential and accidental dignities of the 9th House Lord,here Mars, which is in Capricorn and exalted, so good dignity and Jupiter which is in detriment, but he is angular (practically conjunct DESC) and ruling 1st and 10th houses. Which brings me to
How does one factor in angularity in Whole Sign Horary? Jupiter is conjunct the descendant and would be considered angular using Placidus. When using WSH Is it sufficient for Jupiter to be (somewhere) in one of the 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th houses (== signs in WSH) Or does it need to be near the actual ASC/DESC etc points?
[C] To answer the question of what would happen during these transits (if anything) would the correct approach would be to look at the aspect last formed and to be formed , by the 9th house Lord?
(Lilly does something like this, where in the very first horary chart he examines in vol 2, he uses the past and future aspects of the *significator* - Lord of the ascendant (Sun in that example) to determine what has and will happen (you had a quarrel with your wife over property matters, but this will be settled thanks to a high placed officials efforts etc)- . This is something very new to me, I've heard of looking at the past and future aspects of the Moon, but never a non lunar body, but it seems to work for Lilly)
thanks in advance,
[1] I generally don't use planets beyond Saturn for transits , either as transiting or transited planets, or for any other astrological analysis but Uranus is exactly conjunct my IC, and I've noticed drastic effects as it received transits over the years. Experience trumps theory.
[2] 3 hits - one forward, one backward, then forward again