mollymawk
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Umbrae said:That’s a good question! I wonder why nobody’s asked me before…?
Umbrae said:I took what is called (over here) a steno pad. A 6x9 spiral topped notbook. Pages turn up. When you fill out one side you flip it over and write on the other side of the pages.
Then I took my WCS.
Then I started with the Aces. Why are they alike? Why are they different? What one thing makes them all make sense?
Then I did that with the Two’s and Three’s all the way through. Sure the 5 of Cups guy has them spilt cups…but what about that bridge?
I don’t see the Four of Swords as necessarily following the Three of Swords. I see the Fours as Fours. The way I see the Four of Swords is that it’s morning. It’s wake-up time. We are on the cusp of moving from a four to a five, it’s very movement oriented. Where as the Three of Cups is very directional oriented, it’s not that he’s taking or ignoring, or waiting on taking the cup, it’s where the cup is – it describes a Z axis! And a Z axis comes in handy when you describe motion without directional movement…which means…just about the same as traditional meanings, but a circuitous route.
Sure the guy is carrying 10 staves…but what he’s going to do with them is far more interesting than what we see on the surface, good golly – we see him ‘going’, in a state of movement! So when I later pick up a book and see “burden” I’m left feeling empty. Burden does not express what the guy is doing.
So I wrote. I listened.
Umbrae said:Stories from others help…
Times change. Concepts, language and ideas that once were thought as being so, have been altered by time.
Back in ’93, my wife and I were in Israel, visiting her relatives. Her cousin Menya’s family had left Russia around 1918 or so, and moved to Harbin, China. Menya was raised in a Russian-Jewish community there, until he moved to Israel in 1948.
I asked Menya what the Russian word for Adventurer was. He thought for a bit and said there was not one. The concept of leaving your family, your village, and your duty to your family and village was shameful. This affected how I view both Le Bateleur and the Six of Swords, I think I mentioned this before…
Take the Six of Swords…why would a journey be a shameful act? Because your actions forced you to do what is now called a “Geographical.” Forced you to leave your family and village! The Shame! This is difficult to grasp in today’s culture. But we blithely repeat the Victorian meaning…history in the cards… I always thought of the Six of Swords as a changing of perspective…then my perspective changed.
Make sense?
Flexability and context - that's the key...
Lyric said:I like that----"I listened." I've gotten the impression from observing you around here that you're a keen listener. And a very deep thinker. And I think that even 30+ years into it, you still think deeply, listen keenly, and constantly learn more "stuff" like quantum physics and that snail thing to add to your knowledge of the cards.