Grizabella
Yeah, I'm with Lillie here. I've spent my day housecleaning and thinking to myself "well, actually, it's the same except that I don't 'blame the victim', so to speak, for the outcome being different than the prediction." My idea for a fortune-telling sub-forum was that it be somewhere that we who love fortune telling can post without getting trampled under in threads where there's a loud faction of "no, the cards shouldn't be used for fortune telling at all." We only seem to see posts about the ones who get busted for it for being crooked but no attention is given to the rest of us.
Like the Professional forum----we could post experiences, questions, swap "war stories" kind of---not a forum where we who do tell fortunes could formally teach which deck to use and how to do it at all. That wasn't my idea. I get the impression that there are people forming a ring of skepticism here, with the idea being "OK, we don't believe in this, but strut your stuff, let's see what you do and whether it's worth our giving you your own space or not." I'm uncomfortable with that. There's a lot to be learned in the Professional forum for those who aren't full time professionals who care to observe and chime in and ask questions, just as there would be in a Fortune Telling subforum. See what I mean?
Like others, when I tell a fortune, whether I use cards or one of the other methods, I simply foretell the future without adding the "of course, if it doesn't come about, then you've done something to change the course of events" disclaimer. It's fun, it really does work a lot of the time, whether others choose to believe that or not, and it's true to the old time traditional use of the cards. As I've seen mentioned here at times, it's a much more common use of the cards in other countries and, after all, this IS an international forum so I don't believe we're so few who would enjoy that subforum.
Maybe, though, there's a hesitation on the part of Solandia for fear that it would attract some of the more disreputable fortune tellers? I'm asking sincerely here, because I don't know. I've always wondered why there was such a bias against fortune telling here. It doesn't make me love AT any less, but I truly have wondered if that were it. There's a lot of talk of how we should clean up the public image of the Tarot users and Diviners, so what better way than to do it here where those of us who aren't scalawags and scoundrels can show that it can be done honorably?
I just thought I'd add that sometimes it will appear that a fortune teller has it wrong, but what's wrong is that the timing is off and that the events will unfold exactly as the cards have shown, but just at a later time. Sometimes at a much later time. That's one of my favorite things about fortune telling. When someone says to me, "Oh, you were wrong," I just often wink and smile and say "sometimes even the best of us can get it wrong, but if I were you, I'd keep my eyes open." or something to that effect. Sometimes I just let it go. Sometimes I do get it wrong and I can admit to that, too. But it's my biggest validation of the cards when they come back a year or two later and say to me, "You remember when you said----whatever----well it DID happen!" and that's why I do it. Not because of being given a "you were right" because it's not me who is right---it's the cards. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't be so hooked for a lifetime on fortune telling.
I don't need the cards for introspection about myself. I do that in other ways.
Like the Professional forum----we could post experiences, questions, swap "war stories" kind of---not a forum where we who do tell fortunes could formally teach which deck to use and how to do it at all. That wasn't my idea. I get the impression that there are people forming a ring of skepticism here, with the idea being "OK, we don't believe in this, but strut your stuff, let's see what you do and whether it's worth our giving you your own space or not." I'm uncomfortable with that. There's a lot to be learned in the Professional forum for those who aren't full time professionals who care to observe and chime in and ask questions, just as there would be in a Fortune Telling subforum. See what I mean?
Like others, when I tell a fortune, whether I use cards or one of the other methods, I simply foretell the future without adding the "of course, if it doesn't come about, then you've done something to change the course of events" disclaimer. It's fun, it really does work a lot of the time, whether others choose to believe that or not, and it's true to the old time traditional use of the cards. As I've seen mentioned here at times, it's a much more common use of the cards in other countries and, after all, this IS an international forum so I don't believe we're so few who would enjoy that subforum.
Maybe, though, there's a hesitation on the part of Solandia for fear that it would attract some of the more disreputable fortune tellers? I'm asking sincerely here, because I don't know. I've always wondered why there was such a bias against fortune telling here. It doesn't make me love AT any less, but I truly have wondered if that were it. There's a lot of talk of how we should clean up the public image of the Tarot users and Diviners, so what better way than to do it here where those of us who aren't scalawags and scoundrels can show that it can be done honorably?
I just thought I'd add that sometimes it will appear that a fortune teller has it wrong, but what's wrong is that the timing is off and that the events will unfold exactly as the cards have shown, but just at a later time. Sometimes at a much later time. That's one of my favorite things about fortune telling. When someone says to me, "Oh, you were wrong," I just often wink and smile and say "sometimes even the best of us can get it wrong, but if I were you, I'd keep my eyes open." or something to that effect. Sometimes I just let it go. Sometimes I do get it wrong and I can admit to that, too. But it's my biggest validation of the cards when they come back a year or two later and say to me, "You remember when you said----whatever----well it DID happen!" and that's why I do it. Not because of being given a "you were right" because it's not me who is right---it's the cards. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't be so hooked for a lifetime on fortune telling.
I don't need the cards for introspection about myself. I do that in other ways.
