Greg Stanton
You don't know this. Etteilla claimed he learned it from another person. Maybe, maybe not...frelkins said:Cartomancy as we know it, let's be factual, is largely the invention of that crazy wigmaker, barber, or wheat salesman, or what have you, the guy we know as Etteilla, who was apparently at one time some kind of freemason too.
Please tell us what YOUR definition of "cartomancy" is. You've used plenty of words to tell us what you believe it is not, now please tell us what you think it is.frelkins said:The truth about cartomancy is fascinating enough without the ambiguous word-play. It's really a subject for ludology - why are cardboard and ink so enchanting to us monkeys? What is the purpose of play?
No one is disputing that reading tarot, as it is done nowadays, is an art. But all "art" evolves over time. Cave paintings do not have the same sophistication of the Mona Lisa (both are classified as "Art"); gregorian chant is no where near as complex and polished as a modern film score (both are called "Music"), and divination using cards has taken a similar path of refinement.frelkins said:Again, we clearly just have different definitions. If you think pre-printed look-ups are cartomancy and not spreads, etc. -- all the procedures introduced by the wigster, then we have to stop the discussion. We have to agree to disagree, with all the contempt that sadly implies.
Sorry to see you express "contempt" (your words, not mine) for those who see things differently than yourself.