The Thunder, Perfect Mind

Fulgour

August 30, 2004

Last night as we stood gazing at Saturn and Venus together
on the Eastern horizon, while the full Moon in Pisces shone
brightly in the West, I was moved once again to awe at the
wonderment that has become so much a part of my life,
and the mysterious, almost legendary history of Inanna:

Goddess Altar of Ishtar & Inanna
http://www.spiralgoddess.com/Inanna.html

Rosette ~ Chandra Alexandre
http://www.maabatakali.org/inanna.htm

Babylonian Mythology: Gods & Goddesses: Ishtar
http://www.gods-heros-myth.com/bab/ishtar.html

Inanna ~ Queen of Heaven
http://www.pinn.net/~swampy/inanna2.html
 

Ross G Caldwell

Re: August 30, 2004

Fulgour said:
Last night as we stood gazing at Saturn and Venus together
on the Eastern horizon, while the full Moon in Pisces shone
brightly in the West, I was moved once again to awe at the
wonderment that has become so much a part of my life,
and the mysterious, almost legendary history of Inanna:

I saw that view too this morning. They were a lovely pair.

Thank you for the links, especially the first - the true work of a devotee. May I humbly present my own, very old now, pedantic paean to her?
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/tintirbabylon/INANNA.html

Since I can no longer speak of her without becoming an utter fool, let me simply return to hoping for a clear sky in which to gaze upon her.

Ross

Ishtar Shakipat Teshu - The Ishtar Gate
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/tintirbabylon/content.html
 

Fulgour

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Fulgour

smleite said:
How weird that you should ask this question about flowers. I’ve worked on a research project in University, trying to make connections between European flowers, their depictions in XV and XVI century art (mainly in Portugal), and their symbolic meanings. I still have long lists of the scientific, common and popular / traditional names of plants and flowers in Portugal, Spain, France and Germany, since medieval times. I don’t recall any “papess”, but well, flowers devoted to Mary cover the widest range possible of names and meanings, and I will search that for you. Silvia

Hello Silvia,

I think of what you wrote here quite often.
Have you come across anything since then?
This does seem like a very promising topic.

Blessings,
Fulgour
 

smleite

Fulgour, I found no scientific or common name of a flower that could relate to the Papess (though I think there is a butterfly called “papisa”, just for the record)…

Silvia
 

Fulgour

Tulip ances ?

Shakespeare wrote, a rose by any other name
but then who knows ~

Le Dodal has II La Papess titled II LA PANCES

now take II as "two" or TU
TU La P = TULIP + ances

"ances" ~ un ces... en ci...
 

smleite

A Rose to Fulgour

Chaucer's “Prioress” is called Madame Eglantine. She is a perfect rose… according to the courtliness of her description, all in her “was conscience and tender heart”, and her name, her manners, and her pious devotion allow to draw a parallel between her and the Virgin Mary, as some authors indicate. She could also be used as a symbol of the church, a compassionate, harmonic, refined and perfect institution. Of course, Chaucer could be mocking of it all – just read this: http://www.librarius.com/canttran/genpro/genpro118-162.htm.

She also wears a very interesting bracelet: “She wore a small coral trinket on her arm / A string of beads and gauded all with green; / And therefrom hung a brooch of golden sheen / Whereon there was engraved a crowned "A," / And under, Amor vincit omnia.

It seems that, though in the original motto Virgil was talking about carnal love, the sentence was used by medieval church to refer to God's Love. But the allusion here seems to be made to worldly love; some authors say there should be a biblical passage linked to the sentence in order to give it a religious meaning. As I see it, a crowned “A” is certainly not a religious allusion. The prioress is the incarnation of the perfect lady from Courtly Love traditions, set upon a pedestal – but linked to the erotic imaginary, rather than to the pureness of Mary. An eglantine is a WILD rose, not a domestic one… (and yes, Fulgour, it is a rose by another name).

As to the French tradition, it seems that Jean Renart's thirteenth-century romance “Guillame de Dole” (prior to Chaucer’s) contains an "Aiglentine" as a character.

Silvia