Minderwiz
Sorry if I was a bit up front but the way you phrased that previous post and asked how you would know if one was a liar and if they could be trusted. I was thrown by the move from the general issue of Neptune in a composite to a very specific question about lying and trustworthiness.
My answer stands though. If you want to assess capacity to lie you look at Mercury, not Neptune.
In general:
Planets act to their nature - Venus, Jupiter, Moon and usually Sun are 'good' and Mars and Saturn are bad. Good and bad here are not moral judgements, they're statements about how well they help you achieve your potential.
However in specific situations planets even 'good planets' can act in a dysfunctional way and 'bad' planets can act in a very functional way. You can identify these situations in four broad ways
Firstly look at the essential dignity or lack of it which the planets have. Saturn in Libra, Capricorn or Aquarius can behave very well and be 'good' in providing support to realising your potential. Venus in Scorpio, Aries, or Virgo can be a pain.
Secondly you look at their placement in the chart, relation to the Sun and aspects. Placements in angular houses accentuates their influence whereas being in cadent Houses, reduces their dynamism, placements in 2nd, 6th, 8th and 12th which are not advantageous to the person whose chart it is (native). Relationship to the Sun includes being retrograde or direct, being combust, being oriental or occidental and being fast or slow.
Thirdly you look at which houses they rule in the chart, Venus retrograde, and combust in Scorpio, ruling the eighth might not be the sort of Lady you'd like to meet. Ruling any of the 4 inconjunct houses makes a planet accidentally 'bad', be it Venus, the Moon or Jupiter or Saturn or Mars. Though the extent to which the act against achieving your potential depends on their essential dignity and intrinsic nature.
Finally you look at the aspects to a planet, in particular do they come from planets in bad condition or ruling inconjunct houses. Aspects depend on the planets that make them, rather than the type of aspect but squares and oppositions from planets in 'bad' condition will weaken more than sextiles or trines from the same planets in the same condition. Aspects from dignified planets tend to support, though if they are squares or opposition that support may not come easily.
The outers can be incorporated into this system, with not much difficulty for 2 and 4. Essential dignity (1) is a problem because of their very slow movement. House rulership is more contentious but you could still do that using the modern rulerships Most modern writers seem to treat them more as intrinisically 'bad', despite the 'good' side that they are supposed to have. More often than not Neptune is delusion, deception, drugs and dissolution compared to spiritual elevation. All you need to do is look at the references to these planets to see this is the effective approach.
My answer stands though. If you want to assess capacity to lie you look at Mercury, not Neptune.
In general:
Planets act to their nature - Venus, Jupiter, Moon and usually Sun are 'good' and Mars and Saturn are bad. Good and bad here are not moral judgements, they're statements about how well they help you achieve your potential.
However in specific situations planets even 'good planets' can act in a dysfunctional way and 'bad' planets can act in a very functional way. You can identify these situations in four broad ways
Firstly look at the essential dignity or lack of it which the planets have. Saturn in Libra, Capricorn or Aquarius can behave very well and be 'good' in providing support to realising your potential. Venus in Scorpio, Aries, or Virgo can be a pain.
Secondly you look at their placement in the chart, relation to the Sun and aspects. Placements in angular houses accentuates their influence whereas being in cadent Houses, reduces their dynamism, placements in 2nd, 6th, 8th and 12th which are not advantageous to the person whose chart it is (native). Relationship to the Sun includes being retrograde or direct, being combust, being oriental or occidental and being fast or slow.
Thirdly you look at which houses they rule in the chart, Venus retrograde, and combust in Scorpio, ruling the eighth might not be the sort of Lady you'd like to meet. Ruling any of the 4 inconjunct houses makes a planet accidentally 'bad', be it Venus, the Moon or Jupiter or Saturn or Mars. Though the extent to which the act against achieving your potential depends on their essential dignity and intrinsic nature.
Finally you look at the aspects to a planet, in particular do they come from planets in bad condition or ruling inconjunct houses. Aspects depend on the planets that make them, rather than the type of aspect but squares and oppositions from planets in 'bad' condition will weaken more than sextiles or trines from the same planets in the same condition. Aspects from dignified planets tend to support, though if they are squares or opposition that support may not come easily.
The outers can be incorporated into this system, with not much difficulty for 2 and 4. Essential dignity (1) is a problem because of their very slow movement. House rulership is more contentious but you could still do that using the modern rulerships Most modern writers seem to treat them more as intrinisically 'bad', despite the 'good' side that they are supposed to have. More often than not Neptune is delusion, deception, drugs and dissolution compared to spiritual elevation. All you need to do is look at the references to these planets to see this is the effective approach.
I'll follow your advices and we'll see what I'll come up with. 