Kaylee Marie
We all know that the early Church stole Yule from the pagans and declared that December 25 was Christ's birthday, even though they didn't really have a clue when it was.
Astrologically speaking, December 25, 0001 AD is utterly insignificant. Nothing to merit the three wise men making their trip from the east (where they were avid astrologers) to greet the future king.
My question: Can we figure out Jesus' true birthday by looking at astrological events around that time?
I saw a program on the History Channel last Christmas Eve or the one before (I really can't remember which) in which they were discussing Christ's birth. Supposedly there are biblical quotes about shephards tending their flocks that imply that Jesus was born in the spring. I'm not a Christian, wasn't raised one, so can't confirm the biblical passages here.
Also, according to historical records of the time, King Herod, who heard the prophacy and ordered all male babies killed, died around 02 BC. This means that Christ could not have been born in 01 AD as everyone believes. Again, I'm going on memory of the show, so that 02 BC date may be slightly off.
The show also featured an astronomer who had found an interesting astronomical event on April 17, 0006 BC. I plugged that date into my Solar Fire and came up with the following info. I've left out the outer planets since they were unknown at the time. Dawn in Bethlehem in mid-April is around 5:10 am. I used the Tropical zodiac (sidereal in parens) and Placidus house system.
Ascendant: 0 degrees Gemini (06 Gem)
Midheaven: 12 degrees Aquarius (19 Aq)
Venus: 21 degrees Pisces, 11th house (26 Pis)
Saturn: 29 degrees Pisces, 11th house (4 Aries)
Moon: 9 degrees Aries, 11th house (14 Aries)
Jupiter: 11 degrees Aries, 11th house (16 Aries)
North Node: 19 degrees Aries, 11th house (24 Aries)
Sun: 23 degrees Aries, 12th house (29 Aries)
Mars: 2 degrees Taurus, 12th house (7 Tau)
Mercury: 5 degrees Taurus, 12th house (10 Tau)
For those of you who want to see the outer planets, here ya go:
Uranus: 8 degrees Pisces, 10th house (13 Pis)
Neptune: 6 degrees Scorpio, 6th house (11 Sco)
Pluto: 9 degrees Virgo, 4th house (15 Virgo)
If Jesus wasn't born at dawn, the houses, ASC, & MC are obviously wrong; does anyone have an idea of the time of day that he was born?
So what do you all think of this grouping? Worthy of a king? Any other theories about Jesus' birthday out there?
Astrologically speaking, December 25, 0001 AD is utterly insignificant. Nothing to merit the three wise men making their trip from the east (where they were avid astrologers) to greet the future king.
My question: Can we figure out Jesus' true birthday by looking at astrological events around that time?
I saw a program on the History Channel last Christmas Eve or the one before (I really can't remember which) in which they were discussing Christ's birth. Supposedly there are biblical quotes about shephards tending their flocks that imply that Jesus was born in the spring. I'm not a Christian, wasn't raised one, so can't confirm the biblical passages here.
Also, according to historical records of the time, King Herod, who heard the prophacy and ordered all male babies killed, died around 02 BC. This means that Christ could not have been born in 01 AD as everyone believes. Again, I'm going on memory of the show, so that 02 BC date may be slightly off.
The show also featured an astronomer who had found an interesting astronomical event on April 17, 0006 BC. I plugged that date into my Solar Fire and came up with the following info. I've left out the outer planets since they were unknown at the time. Dawn in Bethlehem in mid-April is around 5:10 am. I used the Tropical zodiac (sidereal in parens) and Placidus house system.
Ascendant: 0 degrees Gemini (06 Gem)
Midheaven: 12 degrees Aquarius (19 Aq)
Venus: 21 degrees Pisces, 11th house (26 Pis)
Saturn: 29 degrees Pisces, 11th house (4 Aries)
Moon: 9 degrees Aries, 11th house (14 Aries)
Jupiter: 11 degrees Aries, 11th house (16 Aries)
North Node: 19 degrees Aries, 11th house (24 Aries)
Sun: 23 degrees Aries, 12th house (29 Aries)
Mars: 2 degrees Taurus, 12th house (7 Tau)
Mercury: 5 degrees Taurus, 12th house (10 Tau)
For those of you who want to see the outer planets, here ya go:
Uranus: 8 degrees Pisces, 10th house (13 Pis)
Neptune: 6 degrees Scorpio, 6th house (11 Sco)
Pluto: 9 degrees Virgo, 4th house (15 Virgo)
If Jesus wasn't born at dawn, the houses, ASC, & MC are obviously wrong; does anyone have an idea of the time of day that he was born?
So what do you all think of this grouping? Worthy of a king? Any other theories about Jesus' birthday out there?