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"Perhaps" it would have been seen as heresy to paint a picture of Paradise that looked like an easily comprehensible scene outside your window.foolish said:The whole point of considering what Bosch had in mind is precisely because most paintings of the Garden of Eden were depictions of Paradise, as described by the Catholic Church. So why would he include images like bugs, monsters and insects in Paradise? Just a simple but legitimate question........
"Perhaps" Mr Bosch sought to suitably baffle the viewer with incomprehensible wonder.
"Perhaps" God made the Medieval world, bugs and all, and devout people did not see them as creepy.
Bingo?foolish said:Bingo! That's exactly what's being suggested. Heretical ideas survived throughout the centuries spanning the Cathars of the 13th to the Reformationists of the 16th. Although the names of their groups may have changed, many of their basic beliefs and objections to orthodox Christianity were consistently similar.
So give me an actual example of hiding secret meanings in art for something as large as this.
(Anywhere in the history of the world.)
As another example, perhaps you can show me how all of the printers of tarot cards were "in" on the secret, and that none of the "orthodox establishment" religious people detected this conspiracy, but instead happily went about life obliviously playing with them.
Most ANY human experience or belief system can be fitted to the tarot.
From Egyptians, to Cowboys, to The Simpsons, to Cathars.
That is why one needs some smidgen of evidence to support any claim that something specific is at the root of tarot creation.
It's not just dogmatic scholarship requirements.
I would not create religious art works for popular "Orthodox" clients.foolish said:The question is, if you were involved in this evolving and often "underground" movement, how would YOU get your information out?
But even if I DID do something as reckless as that, I would not include "weird" or "heretical" subjects in my work.
(If La Papessa" was intended as heretical, as you have claimed, don't you think someone would have noticed it????)
Anyway, I don't want to discourage you from working your theory.
But I'm afraid you have not convinced me of anything.