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Hello all [emoji173]️
I have fallen in love with a skat deck I have bought but never one cartomancy before (only tarot).
The deck I got was Prussian, which is a bit different to the regular Skat decks.
7-10, Unter, Ober, Dame, King. No ace/deuce.
Acorns, leaves, bells and hearts.

Can anyone please just tell me / point to a link (in English) that gives basic meanings for this deck?
I am guessing as there are no aces something else would take on their meaning? As the jacks/knaves are split into two (Ober and Unter) they must take on different meanings?

Please help xxx
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Smile Can be used as "piquet" cartomancy


The suits of this deck are often called the "German suits" and here's how they correspond to what are called the "French" or "International" playing card suits.

Shaded hearts=Hearts
Bells=Diamonds
Leaves=Spades
Acorns=Clubs.

Cartomancy using decks of only 32 cards is quite a common practice especially in France. Etteilla was a well known practitioner.
I would Google the terms "piquet deck cartomancy" or "etteilla piquet" and it would give you some ideas on how one might read such a deck.
Here's an example
https://taroflexions.wordpress.com/2...-piquet-decks/
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There is an Ace also called a "Daus" or there should be if your deck is complete
König=King
Ober=Queen
Unter=Jack



If you have a Dame instead of an Ace or Daus.
I would perhaps take the liberty of assigning König as Ace, Dame as King, Ober as Queen and Unter as Jack
Hope that helps
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Hello all [emoji173]️
I have fallen in love with a skat deck I have bought but never one cartomancy before (only tarot).
The deck I got was Prussian, which is a bit different to the regular Skat decks.
7-10, Unter, Ober, Dame, King. No ace/deuce.
Acorns, leaves, bells and hearts.

Can anyone please just tell me / point to a link (in English) that gives basic meanings for this deck?
I am guessing as there are no aces something else would take on their meaning? As the jacks/knaves are split into two (Ober and Unter) they must take on different meanings?

Please help xxx
Hi. I'd give you the link to my blog with detailed meanings for most of these cards but I do believe self-promotion is not allowed.
So, I will suggest and promote others....
a) I would like to recommend Leesa Ellis' ebook Fortune Telling with Magyar Kartya (William Tell cards). http://www.leesaellis.com/
b) http://www.hungariansoup.com/play/fortune.html
Hope that helps.
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The Daus is actually a Deuce, a Two, but it's higher than the king and so it's usually read as Ace. But on the pictures, you can see it's a 2.

There was a German skat deck with a Dame instead of the Ober but at the moment, it's out of print (look for Skat, Deutsches Bild mit Damen, to see whether it's available). It's sometimes a bit difficult to read a moustached guy as Queen :-)

It's a pity there is hardly material about the Skat deck available in English. Fortunately, German and English are similar enough so Google translate is not a bad solution if you want to learn more about reading German cards. (The Tell cards Leesa Ellis belong to the same tradition, a beautiful deck!) So here are the links to two German websites about German cards for fortune telling.

http://www.kartenlegen.org/skatkarten/

http://www.lilith-kartenlegen.de/index.htm

Lilith uses Schafkopf cards which are identical to Skat cards, it's just a different game.

Some card meanings are the same, others differ. Probably the result of regional traditions that were taught from one reader to the next. That's even worse then The Great Lenormand Disagreements!

Good books are available in German, by Susanne Zitzl and Erika Flickinger. They don't agree either :-(((( so don't be sorry if you can't read them.

I think the only way to get to know these cards is read with them. I'm reading the books and websites and building up my own journal, hoping that over time, I'll learn how the cards in question read for ME.
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