3 people involved in the query (confusion) ? horary chart.

Sharla

I've asked if the guy i'm still seeing, will leave his wife for me this year.

The thing is, he stays with me now 5 days a week due to a upcoming business situation, and also that he wants to. We have also got emotionally closer over the past few months, and especially with him spending more time with me etc....we basically just click and get each other on every level.

He's very hard at opening up being a sun scorpio, mars scorpio but has finally recently told me he does love me, even though i already knew this was the case a while ago.....but he has finally admitted it.

So ive cast a chart asking if he will leave his wife for me, because as he's staying at mine most of the week, like basically getting up going to work and then coming to mine after, and leaving for work the next day etc, for another couple of months till his business gets up and running.....im now thinking that if it goes from this back to how it was before of being a quick two hour meet up once a week (if im lucky), im not down for this.....things can't go backwards, id rather just let him go if this is the case.....and i've already told him this.

So the Q is.... im not sure on what significators to use, as i am involved in the Q, as ive asked if he will leave her for me.

So in this case id be 1st, he's 7th but then what would she be ....if she's 7th from 7th that make her the same as me, so this wouldn't work.

So as its a 3rd party im not sure how to go about this :confused:

I just need to know who's who so i can see what the charts saying.

Ive got a feeling i should be using 10th for her as the arranged marriage, which would make her saturn.
 

think

Hey Sharla,

I think...

He is 1st, she is 7th and you are 10th.

But I am the most amateurish novice ever, so take that with a pinch of salt.

What you say makes a lot of sense... you can't go backwards. You're worth so much more than that.
 

Sharla

Hey Sharla,

I think...

He is 1st, she is 7th and you are 10th.

But I am the most amateurish novice ever, so take that with a pinch of salt.

What you say makes a lot of sense... you can't go backwards. You're worth so much more than that.

Ha ha so think "thinks" lol

Hi think, thanks for your input. Im just not sure about me being 10th ...what makes you say 10th ?

I said she maybe 10th as in my notes I have "arranged marriage" as 10th....but I'm not sure. Ive thought to include myself as want to know if he'll leave her for me, so I thought this would make me 1st and him 7th.

Even if me being 10th which would be his radical 4th of family, roots etc....so I suppose it could be me being 10th from 7th but then why would I be 10th anyway ?

I'm not sure on this 10th think, I thought it wud more be his wife....but I could be wrong.
 

think

Hmm Sharla, I *think* you are right. I went from Minderwiz's post about signifiers, which used the example of the querent enquiring about her son marrying his girlfriend.

But this is still you. Your relationship really. So you're in the house of self, he's 7 and she would be his 5th (since you're in his 7th?)

Or would she be Venus as the other woman?
 

Sharla

Hmm Sharla, I *think* you are right. I went from Minderwiz's post about signifiers, which used the example of the querent enquiring about her son marrying his girlfriend.

But this is still you. Your relationship really. So you're in the house of self, he's 7 and she would be his 5th (since you're in his 7th?)

Or would she be Venus as the other woman?

Yes this is why im slightly confused, im asking about myself too so i'm definitely 1st, she can't be his 5th as she is married to him. He is my 7th .......

And venus as other woman...but aren't i classed as the other woman ? but true im asking the Q so yes she would be the other woman, but venus is already taken by lord 7 anyway, so she couldn't be venus.

So that would leave jupiter or saturn. :confused: still.

Im going to do some googling on it later, and see if i can find anything out.
 

CosmicBeing

Why not pose the question differently and cast another chart.

I have no idea truly how to answer your question.

I would think there just needs to be a positive aspect between you two... and him being in a strong position in the chart.

Why not ask "Will him and his wife divorce?" More to the point.
After you get your answer about that you can ask.... "Will me and him enter into a serious relationship after the divorce?"

I feel like the question you posed is a bit too complex for the chart... but I am for sure not a specialist...take it with a grain of salt.
 

Sharla

Why not pose the question differently and cast another chart.

I have no idea truly how to answer your question.

I would think there just needs to be a positive aspect between you two... and him being in a strong position in the chart.

Why not ask "Will him and his wife divorce?" More to the point.
After you get your answer about that you can ask.... "Will me and him enter into a serious relationship after the divorce?"

I feel like the question you posed is a bit too complex for the chart... but I am for sure not a specialist...take it with a grain of salt.

Yes true i suppose it would be much easier to leave myself out of the Q, and just ask about them both.

I've changed my mind now anyway lol, i don't even want to know. I've already spoke to him about my concerns about this ....he knows what i want and what he needs to do, so he's under surveillance now, as i'm not gonna mention it again...we'll see.
 

CosmicBeing

Yes true i suppose it would be much easier to leave myself out of the Q, and just ask about them both.

I've changed my mind now anyway lol, i don't even want to know. I've already spoke to him about my concerns about this ....he knows what i want and what he needs to do, so he's under surveillance now, as i'm not gonna mention it again...we'll see.

If that you feel that is the right choice for you... it's the right decision. :thumbsup:

I'm a very mars and saturn person...so I always need a clear goal and idea of how to get there or I go coo-coo lol
 

NeptuneRising

Okay i know im an amateur but since im trying to make more practice, i have told my friends to ask their question. One of my friends is in the similar situation with you and she wonders whether he is in love with her or his wife. so i opened the chart virgo was rising, quesited is the 7th house so wife should be represented by 7th from 7th. it means guy is the jupiter in libra and wife is the mercury in pisces. it looks like wife has clearly in love with him but being in 12th house and the sign in her own fall shows she has no power over him. and he is the jupiter in libra while he has no interest in his wife he couldn't get off their marriage some reason. and here comes about his intentions about my friend, he sig jupiter separates with a sextile from saturn. i thought it could represent my friend and tried to analyze more carefully. his sig was in saturns exaltation and saturn was in his rulership, it shows mutual interest from the both planets so it means im in a right way. one important note that saturn was ruling the charts radical 5th house. Since this chart seems pretty accurate, maybe you can take the radical 5th to signify you.
 

Speigelei

When there is a third person in charts such as these you can use Saturn to represent the unwanted spouse or look at the receptions which will show the planet that signifies the wife.